Sign for Musk’s Millions or Keep Your Integrity: Which Will You Choose?

@nickir I'm curious as to how you do the mental gymnastics you do in order to accuse people of defending criminals.

@LordShadowfire It's not mental gymnastics when 1 party is making deals & subsidizing terrorists & saying how wonderful it is to put up a starue to 8x convicted violent felon George Floyd. It DOES require mental gymnastics to figure out a way to excuse his behavior. Or to have a PROSECUTOR in San Francisco try to charge a robbery VICTIM with murder for defending himself. Or accusing Israel of apartheid while defending Harvard for actually practicing it, & at the same time claiming NOT to be antisemitic.

There was nothing esoteric to what I originally said. Nor did you address why you think it is wonderful to make the country SAFER for crims or to be AGAINST free speech.
Learn English BEFORE you use words whose meanings are unknown to you. And advise your leaders to do so too. Rather than rewarding them with doglike devotion.

The fact that you have free speech allowing you to talk politics doesn't mean you SHOULD talk about something you are so very ignorant of.

@nickir Wow, okay. Yeah. I'm the ignorant one. You literally are choosing to ignore the fact that one side was literally bribing voters, while focusing on all these other red herrings you're suddenly throwing out there.

@LordShadowfire That's rather hilarious. Free Speech is a red herring to you. The officials charged with DEFENDING the public are instead trying to PROSECUTE the public in DEFENSE of crims is a red herring? No wonder you lost the election. You give clueless a whole new dimension.
I repeat. The sad fact is he feels he has to bribe voters TO RESPECT FREE SPEECH. The very fact that this is a hard sell to you proves that you'd be happier in Venezula, or Nicaragua or a different dictatorship. Iran?
So yes, you are the ignorant 1.

@nickir Nope. You're twisting my words. Not that I'm surprised. It's a game all of you people play.

You can't directly address the issue that Elon Musk was bribing American voters, so you try to distract from that fact with talk of George Floyd (who was murdered by a white cop with a horrible record for police brutality) and subsidizing terrorists (for which I'd love to see some actual evidence one of these days, but you never will), and then when I call you on your obvious and rather pathetic attempt at distracting from the topic at hand, you switch from the red herring fallacy to the strawman fallacy. It's so predictable, I could set my watch by it.

And now you're back to the other favorite tactic you people use. Accusing us of being against free speech. As if that's the issue here, when Elon Musk was literally bribing American voters to sign his petition and presumably also to change their votes. That's the real problem, but since you can't simply say that you approve of him bribing voters, you have to pretend it's a free speech issue instead.

Get some new material, preferably some that hasn't already been debunked.

@LordShadowfire It is a free speech problem. If you didn't have a problem with free speech, & the proof being 4 years of suppression of anything the echo chamber disapproves of, why talk about integrity in not signing the petition. Someone with integrity would have stuck with the illegality of buying votes. But the OP talks about EXCHANGING ONE'S PRINCIPLES FOR MONEY. So the real problem is the CONTENT of the petition, not the illegality of buying votes.

Nor have you bothered to clear up the fact that he would have this tactic & defend the thesis that he didn't need it as 1A & 2A were well defended by cancellers & gun grabbers, as stupid as that argument would have been.
In short, as you people do, you didn't answer ANY righteous question of your position.
George Floyd was a violent carreer crim who was committing 5 felonies when he was killed, not murdered, RESISTING ARREST. So it's academic what the policeman's record was.

As for distractions, you're the people who call illegal aliens undocumented immigrants lol. You talk about apartheid but until VERY recently your most prestious schools with the most religious Communist professors PRACTICED IT. You use words either to distract or because you don't know what they mean. As evidenced by the paucity of sense in your arguments. And the fact that you call a riot either an almost peaceful protest that lasted 4 months, KILLED >3 DOZEN PEOPLE & damaged millions of $ in property, or 1 that lasted <24 hours, killed 1 person (that no one was upset about as she was a rioter), an "insurrection". This after maintaining the the GUN PARTY left all its guns at home for the "insurrection" lol.
So I'm not twisting you words. You refuse to stick to the proper problem.

@nickir You are, though. You absolutely 100% are. You refuse to admit what the real problem is, all the while claiming that I'm the one who doesn't see it.

And you're still trying to distract by talking about a man who was brutally murdered by a pig.