Trump disbanded Obama's cabinet level pandemic office, and then when Covid came along he told us five weeks of lies
All through Trump's term, our Covid per capita death rate was DOUBLE that of countries like Canada & Germany, resulting in about 550,000 Covid deaths under Trump.
If Trump had handled Covid as well as, say, Justin Trudeau, we'd have had 275,000 FEWER DEATHS! Put another way, Trump's mis-management of Covid cost more deaths than THREE Viet Nam wars!! Three Viet Nams in a SINGLE YEAR, not spread out over ten years like the actual war!!!
Sure, Covid came from outside. And different leaders in different countries managed it differently. Trump's piss-poor Covid management is made clear by the relative per capita death rates.
"I look at it this way," Birx told CNN's Chief Medical Correspondent Sanjay Gupta. "The first time, we have an excuse. There were about 100,000 deaths that came from that original surge. All of the rest of them, in my mind, could have been mitigated or decreased substantially."
@DanielsASJ Underreported implies a source of error. Error analysis is a major part of any scientific publication. I linked you to the source; go read their error analysis.
No matter how hard you try to change the subject, your original claim
Surprisingly, other causes of death disappeared during that year. In all, it was only Covid - 19
Yes, you said it was fake; what's the point in lying about what you said???
I can share with you a live recording of nurses who had to certify that a number of patients at their hospital died of certain other disease and they had to label cause as COVID because hospitals were getting huge money.
Please do! And please let us know how much "huge money" the hospitals were getting!
BTW, did you know that death certificates filled out by and causes of death are determined by city and county medical examiners? That's right, hospitals don't determine causes of death; independent medical examiners have that job.
Regardless, if, as you allege, many deaths have been mis-classified as Covid, why did almost all causes of death increase in 2020? Wouldn't mis-classification produce a reduction in those other causes? your claim contradicts the data!! Truth is, the evidence says mis-classification is a red herring.
@ElwoodBlues I didn't claim on ANY NUMBERS. It was you who claimed the numbers and then, you yourself said it was under reported or over reported whatever. Then I confronted you to atleast have some reliable data and not use over reported / under reported data.
Surprisingly, other causes of death disappeared during that year. In all, it was only Covid - 19
!!! DEAD WRONG !!!
Here in the table are US death numbers for the top ten causes of death for six years ending in 2020. Notice how there are 20% more deaths in 2020 than the average of the previous five years? Doing the math, that's 500,000 excess deaths in 2020.
Notice how, in 2020, 345,000 of those 500,000 excess deaths are classified as Covid? Notice how almost all causes of death rose in 2020, including cancer & heart disease?
If there's any validity to the claim that lots of deaths have been mis-classified as Covid, why did almost all causes of death increase in 2020? Wouldn't mis-classification produce a reduction in those other causes? The evidence says mis-classification is a red herring.
@ElwoodBlues Not only do the data show that covid deaths were not over-reported, it shows they were under-reported. That's very inconvenient for the deniers.
@DanielsASJ Except the facts back them up. Trump deferred to Putin in Helsinki in a dramatic show of total submission. Yesterday Trump falsely declared that there are no longer any Ukrainian cities:
“Those cities are gone, they’re gone, and we continue to give billions of dollars to a man who refused to make a deal, Zelensky. There was no deal that he could have made that wouldn’t have been better than the situation you have right now. You have a country that has been obliterated, not possible to be rebuilt,” Trump said during a campaign speech in Mint Hill, North Carolina, on Wednesday.
Trump will deliver Ukraine to Russia on a silver platter.
