Kamala Harris in the US presidential debate

@missyann Oh, don't you start. You've made it quite clear that you don't believe any of the horrors that are going on in our nation as a direct result of abortion bans being passed. I've given you ample evidence over the last couple of years, and you just sit there with your fingers in your ears and your eyes shut.

@LordShadowfire These abortion bans are determined by the state. Why do you want to force unwilling states to allow abortion? Is this what you consider democracy?

@emiliya Why do you want to force women and yes, children, to carry pregnancies to term that they don't want? That's the real issue. Why do you want to force that? Why do you want a climate in which women who miscarry have to carry that dead fetal tissue to term because their doctors are terrified of going to jail? Why do you want that? Why is that a world you want to live in?

@LordShadowfire A fetus is a human, and I do not support the deliberate killing of other humans. Fetuses are innocent and have done no harm to anyone. If the only consideration were the mother's body, it would be a different matter. We have two bodies to think about, and one had no part in getting there. As a supposedly sentient being, a woman is capable of realizing she will get pregnant if she has sex without contraception or protection. Our brains are there to use.

Who is carrying dead fetuses? If she miscarries, her baby will come out of her body. Do you really care about women who miscarry?

@emiliya Allow Baby Molly to teach you the difference between an embryo and a living person.

@emiliya A potential human.
Unless those humans are victims of child sexual abuse. Then you want to force them to carry that pregnancy to term even if it does kіӏӏ them. But you're okay with that. How do I know that? Here's how:
That right there tells me what you're willing to do.
Okay, so victims of rаpe or sexual abuse are responsible for getting pregnant. Got it.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/post-roe-america-women-detail-agony-forced-carry/story?id=105563349

@ElwoodBlues Hi Elwood.

An embryo is a living human. It is alive and it belongs to our species. What do you think a human is? A human body is a human, and an embryo or fetus have a human body. There are different stages of development and the body grows and changes, but it is always human and never anything else.

@emiliya I love how you just completely dodged his entire point. You're very good at verbal gymnastics, but you're not good at all at this debating thing. Maybe you should give it up.

@emiliya Straw man fallacy: I never said an embryo wasn't "human," I said it wasn't alive.

Baby Molly gives you a specific test for differentiating between living people and non-living embryos. That's how science works: by doing experiments and tests to see how theories hold up.

@emiliya isn't going to respond to that because it's too hard. That's why she threw out that straw man.

@ElwoodBlues

@LordShadowfire There is no such thing as “potential human.” We are either human, or we are not. A human fetus has human DNA, and is therefore the same as you and I. It only needs to grow and get older, and this is the same process for all of us. We are not less human because we aren't as ahead as everyone else, because we haven't grown or matured as much as others have. I see no difference between an unborn fetus and you, except the fetus is cute and sweet.

Most abortions are not due to rape. Rape does not come with a requirement to abort, and many rape victims choose to keep their baby. It is not the baby's fault, and killing the baby makes you equally bad.

“Maybe you should give it up.”

Only someone who feels they are losing would say that to their opponent. Am I your opponent?

@emiliya Then why is it possible to freeze an embryo or fetus, but not a newborn baby? You still refuse to answer that.
Oh, well, then. That's all right, then. It's okay to force victims of rаpe and sexuaӏ abuse to carry their rаpіѕts' offspring to term, because it doesn't happen all the time.

Now address the fact that I proved not all women who miscarry are able to pass the dead tissue without surgery.

@emiliya Aborting your baby does not make you bad when you are raped. Girl, let's hope you never get raped. Pro choice. Experience life first.

@LordShadowfire How can saving innocent human lives be a horror ? Is it wrong to fight to save a class of innocent 1st graders ? Or those in nursing homes ? Or to save women who find themselves with an unwanted pregnancy by providing everything they need to carry their baby to term and after

My ears are not shut. I have said that their stories are incomplete and they are. There is no proof that they have seen a Doctor Who specializes in high-risk pregnancies or neonatal specialist, who would have certainly been called in on these cases, unless the women want to have abortions. Abortion doctors would not have been the ones who cared for these women if they were truly concerned with their babies lives.

Now you provide me with a situation where the specialist would have denied treatment, and I will admit that I am wrong

@PoetryNEmotion I have been raped. I was a six year old child when it first happened, and a 14 year old when it happened again. I was raped more than once at six, by the same boy.

I would not have aborted at 14, and I would not abort now if I were raped. Women who keep their babies after being impregnated through rape show us all that it is not necessary to abort your baby if this happens to you. Many babies made through consensual sex are unplanned, yet are we expected to abort those babies? It could be going that way.

@emiliya
...has human DNA, and is therefore the same as you and I.

Semen contains also human DNA, does that make it human too?

@emiliya I am so sorry you had to endure that.

Although it doesn’t make it right pregnancy from true rape is rare. This is why pro life believes that there should be a police report and a hospital report proving this.. pro abortion denies the fact that women lie about rape in order to justify abortion and a lot of these are girls in high school and college.

I have sat in on a sexual assault support group, and the women who chose to give birth to their babies, following rape, some chose adoption, and Sam chose to keep their babies, but none they were sorry. And although a couple chose abortions, and we’re not sorry and we’re not judged sad that they wished that they had been put in contact immediately with other survivors. No woman should ever have to endure this violence against them but those who choose not to have an abortion are the bravest women..

Pro abortion need to watch on YouTube “
“ Rape survivor chooses life for son “a beautiful story about a boy woman who is violently raped and she and her husband chose to keep this baby and dearly love him. They chose love over hate and found something beautiful out of something horrible

These babies are the second innocent victims, and should not get the death penalty. Just once I would like to hear pro abortion, say that those who commit the rape deserve the same penalty that the innocent human life receives, and that they are going to fight to ensure a this happens instead of screaming, for these innocent human lives to be aborted.

If you put 2 babies side by side, there is no way you can tell which one was conceived in rape. These babies are every bit as human, and they serve to be born.

@Thewhazzupdude A fetus is: “an offspring of a human or other mammal in the stages of prenatal development.”

Sperm is: “the male reproductive cell, formed in the testicle.”

Sperm must unite with an egg to form an embryo. An embryo is a very small baby, a human just like you. The only difference is that you are bigger.

This is a human embryo:



By the time the woman is aware she is pregnant, we already have a small human.

@Thewhazzupdude Male, semen, and a female egg are vehicles, and create a human life when they fuse. Alone, they are not human life.

@emiliya Zygote embryo and fetus are words that describe stages of human development no different than saying, infant toddler adolescent adult. And in most cases, are the exact size they are supposed to be for that stage of development

@missyann You are using images of fetuses, and falsely claiming them to be embryos.

@missyann @emiliya look at this image and tell me whether you think it's a human.

@LordShadowfire If it were a human embryo, it would be. It isn't human, so why would we call it that?

@emiliya Darn.