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White born again evangelicals may decide the election—and it’s BAD NEWS FOR tRUMP!

“Evangelicals For Harris, one of the new grassroots groups popping up across the nation holding calls to support and raise funds for Vice President Kamala Harris’s presidential run is out with a hard-hitting ad, raising a warning from a veteran religious broadcaster that if 20% of white born again Christian evangelicals vote Democratic in the November presidential election, Trump will likely lose.

Christian Broadcasting Network’s pro-Trump David Brody, who is also an on-air personality for the far-right streaming website Real America’s Voice, says the Evangelicals For Harris video is part of their “effort to win over some of those ‘on-the-fence’ Conservative evangelicals in swing states who are lukewarm when it comes to Donald Trump.” “
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missyann · 56-60
Most will not jump ship no matter how they feel about President Trump. They will not support Harris because of her stance on abortion.. and yes, I know that there are some people who call themselves Christians who support abortion, but a true Christian will never support abortion
LordShadowfire · 46-50, MVIP
@missyann You're not a true Christian. You support an America in which women are forced to carry dead fetal tissue because doctors are afraid of going to prison.
missyann · 56-60
@LordShadowfire I do support helping women through an unwanted pregnancy. What I don’t support is using forceps and ripping a baby a part for something it had no control over. It would be the exact same thing saying that a woman should be sentenced to having her limbs ripped off for a crime her boyfriend or husband committed.

A true Christian supports both the woman and the child

No innocent life should be intentionally and deliberately ended just to appease a woman’s comfort or to be inconvenienced
LordShadowfire · 46-50, MVIP
@missyann And what about when the woman's life is at stake? I love it that you ignore the numerous instances of women being forced to carry dead fetal tissue because it doesn't support your image of yourself as a compassionate, loving Christian.
missyann · 56-60
@LordShadowfire it is 2024 and medical technology has advanced to the point that a woman literally losing her life due to pregnancy is so rare that it is never. I have asked over and over whether a Doctor Who specializes in high-risk pregnancies or neonatal were ever consulted. Because if they were, and they denied a woman care for a stillbirth, I will admit that I am wrong. These instances are all different so the treatment is different. I do know that sometimes it is safer for the woman to go into labor naturally. I don’t know what her circumstance was, and neither do you.

Just because I don’t support abortion doesn’t mean I don’t care about women or what happens to them. It is your image that I don’t.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, MVIP
@missyann Oh, I see. So it doesn't happen very often, and therefore it's okay when it does. Got it.
missyann · 56-60
@LordShadowfire no, I didn’t say that. Women are usually counseled on their options, and one of those options could be to be induced and go ahead and deliver it. But that is not considered an abortion.. if she was in danger of an infection, a specialist would have considered that. I do know this to be a fact.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, MVIP
@missyann
But that is not considered an abortion..
Okay, but surgery to remove dead fetal tissue still is considered to be an abortion. I've repeated that fact to you numerous times, and you just jam your fingers in your ears every time I do.
missyann · 56-60
@LordShadowfire Not an elective abortion.l there is a difference
LordShadowfire · 46-50, MVIP
@missyann Yeah, except the law and medical science don't differentiate between an elective abortion and a medically necessary abortion.
missyann · 56-60
@LordShadowfire elective abortion Isn’t medically necessary at the woman’s request
missyann · 56-60
@LordShadowfire Are you telling me that every doctor in that hospital and on staff refused this woman’ whose life was in jeopardy treatment ? This is Highly Unlikely and


In a hospital setting, where abortions and any condition or injury that affect a woman’s fertility and life such as an emergency hysterectomy doctors always consult with each other and sometimes find that there is another option and in cases like these, they consult doctors who specialize in high-risk pregnancies, and in cases of the hysterectomies, they would consult GYN’s

Yes, in a scenario that the pregnancy must end to save mothers life and she is not yet 21 weeks the baby is surgically removed but they don’t use forceps to go in and rip it apart. This may be called an abortion. But it is different than an elective abortion and would be medically necessary.. After 21 weeks A stillbirth can be induced or a C-section. And if she’s close to her due date, sometimes it is safer for her to go in to labor naturally.. but if she doesn’t within two weeks, it is usually induced or may have to be removed by a C-section and this would be considered medically necessary
@missyann Haven’t kept up with the horrid, inhumane laws your MAGA lawmakers and judges are forcing on our populations and our physicians/nurses/hospitals, have you?

READ THE LAWS THEY PASSED AND SEE WHAT HORRORS YOU ARE DEFENDING!
@missyann Trump IS NOT a true Christian. By definition a Christian must confess their sins and ask forgiveness from God. Trump denies doing so saying he has done nothing “ that needs God’s forgiveness.”

There’s a term for this: BLASPHEMY!
LordShadowfire · 46-50, MVIP
@missyann
Are you telling me that every doctor in that hospital and on staff refused this woman’ whose life was in jeopardy treatment ?
YES! THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING! BECAUSE THEY WERE ALL AFRAID OF GOING TO JAIL! THAT IS THE WORLD YOU HAVE HELPED CREATE!
CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
@KunsanVeteran
Trump IS NOT a true Christian.
I cannot believe human society has reached such a low that this needs to be said.
@CorvusBlackthorne He said it. He calls himself a Christian to get votes. No other reason.
missyann · 56-60
@LordShadowfire Sweetheart, there is absolutely NO WAY that EVERY doctor in the hospital was afraid to treat that woman. don’t you think that would have been the perfect political statement for the hospital to say.” Every doctor in this hospital was afraid to treat this woman, for fear of what would happen to their license or jail. “
If so, this would have been a great malpractice suit . That hospital will be out of business..

You believe her because she wanted an elective abortion, I don’t believe her, because there is no proof that specialist told her that there was no other options.

Why is it that pro life Drs are not afraid to treat life-threatening conditions like ectopic pregnancies ? All doctors know what is truly life threatening

I am telling you that in 2024 with the medical technology we have today there is absolutely NO reason to intentionally and deliberately rip a baby apart to save a mothers life when an emergency C-section, or an induction for a preterm delivery can be done to try to save both live. Medical technology today we know for a fact. A 21 week baby can survive outside of the womb. we know this because a doctor tried and succeeded at saving that life. Why not try to save both lives ? If she just wants an abortion, don’t use the medically necessary and rape excuse.

Can you prove without a doubt that anything I have said is a lie ? Stop listening to the media and do research
LordShadowfire · 46-50, MVIP
@missyann Wow, okay. So now anything I produce for you that's reported by any news outlet whatsoever is going to be dismissed as a lie because you've got your tinfoil hat on too tight. I'm done with you. I've done nothing but tell you the truth, and you've sat there and accused me of lying because you just can't handle the fact that the world you're creating is hurting innocent women and children.
missyann · 56-60
@LordShadowfire Did your story say that even specialist denied to treat this woman for her condition ? I’m not saying that there weren’t some doctors who were afraid to go to jail, but what I am saying is that there are OB/GYN‘s who specialize in high-risk pregnancies who might have had other options, and it is a fact that they would not have denied to treat this woman

The burden of proof is for you to prove what I say is wrong instead of throwing out terms like my tinfoil hat is on too tight

I believe every abortion hurts a human life. I am part of a group who helps women in every unwanted pregnancy situation, and their existing children. Your group offers one thing, and that is to end an innocent human life
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missyann · 56-60
@KunsanVeteran I’m not voting for him to be my priest. I’m voting for him to be my president because he supports more of the issues that I value then Harris does
@missyann Then you have a majority of evil and depraved values it seems
missyann · 56-60
@KunsanVeteran You are so hateful. Just because our values aren’t the same and I don’t put the same emphasis on the
Importance of the values that you support and I believe they’re not good for our society doesn’t mean your reasons are evil. Even abortions, which I think the ACT not ALL of the people who support it is the greatest evil of society today and is the top reason that I do support President Trump

You really need to learn how to disagree with the facts and not personal character attacks
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LordShadowfire · 46-50, MVIP
@KunsanVeteran I finally had to report her. She went too far when she lied about me and then doubled down on her lies. I hate to do it, because the website always punishes me for reporting violations, but there's only so much I can take.