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This is far deeper than Biden’s debate failure.

The whole wide world has been shaken awake to the reality that the vast Democrat world participated in the Hunter laptop lie. Collusion between the CIA, the DOJ, the media, entire Democrat world insisting that Hunter Biden’s laptop was a Russian plant. How can Democrats, the Democrat media, any part of that government within a government ever be trusted or believed again ?
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4meAndyou · F
It's disgusting. I am sickened by their lies, but this is not new to me. I've known they were lying for quite a long time.

It's sad that the Democrat/Socialist/Marxists have to be slapped in the face with the truth to wake up to it, but I sincerely doubt that their morals will improve because they've been caught.
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Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@4meAndyou they are Josef Goebbles advocates
4meAndyou · F
@carpediem Yes. They do.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@4meAndyou imagine how shaken our allies must be after seeing that debacle.
How reinforced our enemies must be
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@4meAndyou It takes years to untangle such big lies. How long did it take to expose the Bay of Tonkin lie? Watergate? Whitewater? This lie is now out in the full open, finally.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@4meAndyou

"It's sad that the Democrat/Socialist/Marxists have to be slapped in the face with the truth to wake up to it,"

Those scoundrels knew all the time what the truth was, it's just their ongoing lies that got exposed.

And most of the MSM knowingly aided, abetted and circulated those lies.

Now, at least a year too late, the "Paper of Record," the NY Times, in a belated effort to save a little face, editorially urges Biden to step down, NOT because the Times just learned about Biden's condition a couple of days ago, but that the PUBLIC did, in UNDENIABLE fashion.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/28/opinion/biden-election-debate-trump.html
@4meAndyou the left is absolutely vile, and I've lost patience with their brainwashed supporters who see the evil and cheer it on. Then, there are the republicans who are complicit - the Liz Cheney's and Adam Kinzinger's. Or the one's who see the crimes, and the write strongly worded letters. No one ever defeated communism by being nice.
4meAndyou · F
@Heartlander Yes...finally exposed to the public as Thinkerbell said. The corruption is heartbreaking. I pray a LOT lately for God to save our nation from these quasi criminals.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@4meAndyou

Even the complicit MSM are jumping ship.

Heartlander · 80-89, M
@Thinkerbell Yep, but they just want Joe Biden's name off the front pages so they can focus 100% of their front pages on telling the American people not to vote for Trump. Their next Russia-gate is probably already in the planning phase.

Don't underestimate the effort the MSM will put into keeping Democrats in power.
carpediem · 61-69, M
@Heartlander You’re correct. The worst media in the world. Such a shame
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@carpediem

Just compare the front page coverage that the NYT gave to Abu Ghraib and compare it to the coverage they gave the Holocaust. Just an estimate, but Abu Ghraib probably got more front page coverage in 30 days than the Nazi extermination camps got in 5 years.

Why? Because a Republican was president when Abu Ghraib happened. Had Al Gore been president it's unlikely that anyone in the US would have even known about Abu Ghraib.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@Heartlander

I agree that they'll work hard to keep Biden off the front page, and focus on how terrible Trump is, but still, editorials like this certainly can't help the Democrats unless the editorials do in fact help them dump Biden.


And if Biden stays on the ticket, what will they do after the second debate on Sept 10? They can't expect Biden to do much better (and possibly worse, if his cognitive decline worsens in the meantime), unless they allow him to have notes and/or a teleprompter to read from.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@Thinkerbell Their goal is to replace Biden with another Democrat, not to pick Trump over Biden. The last Republican that the NYT endorsed was Eisenhower in 1956.. that was 68 years ago.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@Heartlander

Oh, the NYT certainly wants a Democrat. It's just that they have lost confidence that Biden is that Democrat.

If they still had confidence in Biden, they would be making excuses for him.

The best excuse I've heard from a liberal about Biden's poor debate performance is, "He had a cold, and the cough medicine he took for it kept him from being sharp." 🤭