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Richard65 · M
Yes, you're right, the government even proscribed Palestine Action as a terrorist organisation and jailed their leaders, and arrested people just for holding up pro-Palestine placards. I'm glad that pisses you off. Your support is appreciated 👍
MommyLucy · 36-40, F
@DogMan Your my special friend so sorry if I sounded harsh but poverty especially childhood poverty REALLY upsets me! 😘😘😘
MommyLucy · 36-40, F
@DogMan
Do you think having borders is racist? Do you think it's racist to not want people to flood into your country illegally? Do you have locks on the doors of your home? If you do, does that mean YOU
are racist?

Not racist and countries do need bourders but because I care about the less fortunate I believe if children from third world countries need help then rich countries should help them because that is compassion and empathy and compassion and empathy is more important than law and order in my opinion! 😇😇😇 The right wing is strength, law, order and justice while the left wing is compassion, empathy, tolerance and forgiveness so think of the right wing as the father of the country and the left wing as the mother of the country and obviously both sides are needed but while saying that this song comes to mind! 🤪🤪🤪

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MommyLucy · 36-40, F
@DogMan I think Starmer is like Bill Clinton a Conservative politician on the left! 😕😕😕 I dislike Bill Clinton because he was literally the most right wing Democrat ever because he ran as my daddy says he called the third way as a centrist but his presidentcy was basically lightweight Republicanism! 🙄🙄🙄 I think Starmer is similar in that he is a centrist so a Conservative on the left as apposed to actually being on the left! 😇😇😇 Mitt Romney and Bill Clinton have more in common with each other than they do with Trump and Biden so they could literally both form a centrist party run by Moderate Republicans like Mitt Romney and Conservative Democrats like Bill Clinton! 😂😂😂

MommyLucy · 36-40, F
I just thought of a perfect example on how I view free speech! 😌😌😌 I believe in free speech and I think free speech is a VERY good thing BUT I view free speech the exact same way I view spoiling children! 😜😜😜 I think it's good to spoil children a tiny bit by buying them lots of Christmas presents and birthday presents or even the odd gift here and there BUT there has to be a limit or kids won't learn value! 😇😇😇 Same with free speech, free speech is good BUT you have to draw a line at some point or otherwise hate speech becomes acceptable and that is NOT okay! 😤😤😤
ArishMell · 70-79, M
We don't know all the facts here.

However this case many have nothing to do with your, or Katie Hopkins', imagined "establishment". Nor the Prime Minister; and your allegation about ideology is utter rubbish.

I have no idea who Hopkins is, nor where she lives, but to you the UK is a foreign country you may or may not know much about. Perhaps Hopkins doesn't either.

Usually when the Police investigate some alleged misbehaviour like this, it is because someone has taken offence and complained to them - then they have to act. They can't act unless they see some wrong-doing taking place, or they are called to act by others.

It is against the law to make wilfully inflammatory (e.g. racist) or to incite hatred, violence and other antisocial crimes; but satire is allowed and very much alive in Britain.

Whether Katie Hopkins is any good at satire or is instead merely an abuse-shouter who can barely spell "satire", I cannot tell. I have not read or heard her material.


I have no idea what Hopkins meant by "spaz" - do you?.

I remember in the past "spas" was a nasty, insulting slang contraction of "spastic", a genuine but now obsolete term for being physically disabled. As the medical word "spastic" fell out of use, "spas" became a wider term of childish abuse for a while.

It may mean something else to Hopkins.
Waveney · M
You can indeed by investigated and arrested for social media posts if they are suspected of committing offences such as

Making credible threats of violence,
Harassment or stalking,
Inciting violence or racial/religious hatred,
Malicious communications,
And certain public order offences.

This is no longer Starmer’s Britain but she deserves what’s coming to her.

English media personality Katie Hopkins has built a career around inflammatory rhetoric, leading to her being fired from LBC Radio, permanently banned from Twitter in 2020 for violating hate speech policies, and bankrupted by a high-profile libel lawsuit.Her most widely condemned and legally damaging comments span human rights, tragedies, class, and health.

1. Describing Migrants as "Cockroaches"

In April 2015, following a shipwreck in the Mediterranean where over 400 migrants drowned, Hopkins wrote a column for The Sun titled “Rescue boats? I’d use gunships to stop migrants.” In it, she wrote:

"Show me pictures of coffins, show me bodies floating in water... I still don’t care. Make no mistake, these migrants are like cockroaches."

The United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights formally condemned the statement, comparing her language to the propaganda used before the Rwandan genocide.

2. Calling for a "Final Solution" After the Manchester Bombing

Following the May 2017 Manchester Arena terrorist bombing, Hopkins tweeted:

"22 dead - number rising. Schofield. Don't part-foal me. We need a final solution. #Manchester"

The phrase "final solution" is the historical term used by the Nazi regime for the Holocaust. The immense public backlash led to her immediate dismissal from her radio hosting role at LBC.

3. Falsely Accusing Jack Monroe (The Defamation Case)

In 2015, Hopkins mistakenly targeted anti-poverty campaigner Jack Monroe on Twitter, falsely accusing Monroe of vandalizing a war memorial. When Hopkins refused to apologize, Monroe sued for libel.The Outcome: Monroe won the case.The Penalty: Hopkins was ordered to pay £24,000 in damages and hundreds of thousands in legal fees, forcing her to sell her family home and file for an Individual Voluntary Arrangement (IVA) to manage bankruptcy.

4. Mocking the Illness and Death of Derek Draper

In January 2024, following the death of Derek Draper (husband of TV presenter Kate Garraway) from long-term COVID-19 complications, Hopkins posted a video laughing and drinking wine while mocking Garraway's grief.

She claimed ITV would hand Garraway a book deal and mockingly added that the death was sponsored by "Fizzzzzzzeeerr" (Pfizer), even though Draper contracted the virus before vaccines existed

.5. Categorizing Children by Their Names

During a 2013 appearance on ITV's This Morning, Hopkins declared that she judges children based on their names and would actively prevent her own children from playing with peers from lower-class backgrounds.

She famously stated:"I think you can tell a lot from a child’s name. For me, a name is a shortcut of finding out what class a child comes from and whether I want my child to play with them. ... I don’t like geographical names. If a child is called 'Brooklyn' or 'London' I think, 'gosh, what kind of parent names their child after a place?'"

Show host Holly Willoughby famously pointed out that Hopkins’ own daughter is named India.

6. Comments on Dementia, Disability, and Illness.

Hopkins has consistently targeted vulnerable groups, frequently framing health conditions as societal burdens:
Dementia Patients: She referred to dementia sufferers in hospital beds as "bed blockers" who consume valuable NHS resources.
Obesity: On The Last Leg, she claimed, "Obesity is not a disability," stating she would never hire an overweight person because "fat people aren't sexy.

"Targeting Children: She publicly bullied a 9-year-old autistic girl on Twitter and mocked a toddler diagnosed with an explicit, severe neurological condition.
gol979 · 46-50, M
@MommyLucy thats an awful experience and i would 100% stand up for you but i dont think there should be any limit on speech, whether framed as compassionate limits or hate speech
MommyLucy · 36-40, F
@gol979 As an autism advocate I believe in autism acceptance and I wouldn't want my autism to go because it is part of who I am as a person! 😇😇😇 Your comment just now though was super lovely so I will 100% respect your opinion! 😌😌😌 Your the best! 😘😘😘 Please read how I compare my views on free speech to my views on spoiling children because I believe free speech is good as long as it has a compassionate limit! 😇😇😇
DogMan · 61-69, M
@onewithshoes
onewithshoes · 26-30, F
@MommyLucy
Enforcing morality, decency, and good manners is properly the business of parents, educators, and clergy within their own sphere; but allowing it to ever become the business of the law is a very bad idea that can lead to horrible consequences when a different set of interests gains power.


I'm with you. One Shoe 🙂
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
This is the first time I have ever heard her attention-seeking efforts described as "comedy" (the videos she makes are lacking in any obvious humour). Hopkins first came to public attention when she was sacked as a Civil Servant for fraudulently claiming sick leave while appearing as a contestant on The Apprentice (which she also lost). She is utterly devoid of talent, instead using conflict and "controversy" to boost her online profile. Recent stunts included deliberately breaking laws in Australia to get herself deported during Covid lockdown (and wasting scarce public resources at the same time).

Come to London for a break. You won't get shot and you can dip your hand into any of our public water features without getting arrested 🙂
Waveney · M
@SunshineGirl I truly think this OP is an alt of sunsporter. He is unhinged.
Munumbis · 46-50, M
Rape gangs arrests for social media posts. The UK is no longer a first world country.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
Katie Hopkins has sacrificed a normal family and possessions in order to pursue her career...

...as a self-centred troll. It's all about the hate and her own publicity.

As soon as there are real-life harms involved, so is the Law.
DogMan · 61-69, M
@FreddieUK As soon as there are real-life harms involved, so is the Law.

Are you saying that "Words" equal real-life harm?
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@DogMan No. But words are used to incite and inflame. If they didn't, those who want to see that happen wouldn't bother using them.

 
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