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A View from the Outside

SW is a US based operation. So its only reasonable that the American perspective is heavily represented. But when you cut to the chase, Americans represent less than 5% of the worlds people. Certainly the most morbidly obese, (and seemingly proud of it) well armed and self congratulating 5%.. But still only 5%. So I think its only fair that Americans get get a view of how others from the outside see them and their views on current events withing America, as seem from outside. Even Americans admit how poorly news and current events are being reported within America. So think of it as my "Public Service"
Lets start with this:
A few thousand National guardsmen and several hundred Marines march into Los Angeles uninvited by the state (due process ignored) and unwanted by the governor. Now from an outside perspective, should they be there? But skipping over that.. It would seem that the federal authorities have put "the right people" in place of the military and the national guard to have those orders followed without anyone questioning if the orders were indeed legal. So if any state now does something Donald objects to, he can put down the "insurrection" using the military, whether it is legal or not and the state can do nothing about it..
Thats how it looks from here..😷
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Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
Whoever you initially responded to seems to have blocked me, so I can't respond directly under your last comment to me.

"My point was that people are now in place who will not refuse an order from Trump, just because it is illegal or unconstitutional."

It remains to be seen whether Trump's order is illegal or unconstitutional; that may have to be settled in court, perhaps by the Supreme Court.

What is undoubtedly true is that the rioters interfered with ICE, and that there is a California law that prevents the local police from aiding ICE, so the question is can a recalcitrant governor of a state prevent the enforcement of federal law? I think that question was settled a long time ago when the feds forcibly integrated a school in Arkansas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Rock_Nine
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@whowasthatmaskedman

"I never expected SCOTUS to reject the Trump position. Its HIS court now.."

Actually, the case has not yet reached the Supreme Court.
Even the 9th Circuit Court in CA (not known for its conservatism) has just ruled against Newsom.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-06-19/9th-circuit-court-of-appeals-rules-on-los-angeles-military-deployment

But of course Newsom is not giving up; he needs to virtue signal a lot more if he expects to win the 2028 presidential nomination.
jackjjackson · 70-79, M
Your friend was wrong AGAIN? Shocking! @Thinkerbell
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@jackjjackson

And Tonto tries sooo hard to set him straight. 🤷‍♀
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Jackaloftheazuresand And because you cant address the actual problem i raised, you decide to try for a personal attack. Which is OK. That just makes you a Trump supporter or apologist. I pity you and all those genes you will hopefully never pass on.😷
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Jackaloftheazuresand Thanks. But since your nation still thinks it has influence globally, you get my opinion as well. Probably better informed than yours..😷
trollslayer · 46-50, M
iamthe99 · M
They voted for it. But then, Trump is only using this power in blue cities and states. Everywhere else will be exempt
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@iamthe99 Not that I want to make the comparison. But Hitler Annexed Austria in a similar fashion..😷
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Thinkerbell I didnt say it was the same thing. I said it was done in a similar manner. The Germans came through the border on a pretext without being invited..As I remember, that didnt end well. Unless you were in the Sound of Music.. My point was that people are now in place who will not refuse an order from Trump, just because it is illegal or unconstitutional..😷
That's how it looks from Canada too -- our much more powerful neighbour not sliding but hurtling into something very like a fascist dictatorship.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
Rioting, looting, and obstructing a federal government procedure in Los Angeles: National Guard and Marines.

Rioting, looting, and obstructing a federal procedure in Washington DC: blanket pardons.


That tells you everything.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@trollslayer I agree. Skipping over the right and wrong of it, the two incidents should have the same response..😷
@whowasthatmaskedman And on January 6th, 2020, what was tRUMP’s response while his brainwashed cult members attacked the Capitol and wounded 140 Capitol police who were doing their duty to quell his violent, senseless, and criminal mob?

He watched it on TV.
Convivial · 26-30, F
I think Nuremberg came up with something about following illegal orders ...
Americans control the algorithms online. Monopoly capitalism. They're charging rent! We need a public internet. Americans need to stop pretending to be unable to think.
jehova · 31-35, M
Yes all bc he DJT got away with inciting an uprising the first time. Now apparently no laws apply to his highness DJT
Its out of control. For sure.
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@BlueGreenGrey True enough. Thats the good and the bad of the internet.
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@BlueGreenGrey I do know from personal experience of being in the US that almost no story makes it onto the network news if it isnt within America or doesnt directly involve Americans or foreign policy. Also there is a strong tendancy to have a reporter offer his (or her) story, followed by one or more people offering commentary of what others should thing about it to be on ther "right side". Your point about people being happy or proud to be uninformed is well made. But of course that makes those people easily led..😷
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@kodiac Hi Ho Tinfoil! I am sure you can find something else to comment on that doent make you look bad..😷
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@kodiac
everything Americans do affect the rest of the world

less and less
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@newjaninev2 Yes.. And Trump was the tipping point. The world is walking away now. But to many Americans (our mutual friend included) America is still the shining centre of the Universe.😷

 
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