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36.7% of americans eligible to vote in 2024 chose not to. Therefore, no one won.

If 64% of ppl voted and no one got at least 50% of those that did vote. No single candidate got more than 32% of the total potential popular vote. Thus no single candidate got even a third of all votes cast.
Where was the manditory runoff election as required by law?
Gas prices higher. Military cost higher. Lies upon lies. Laws being broken by an unpopular felon that cheated.
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ArishMell · 70-79, M Best Comment
Irespective of your own party-political views, that such a large proportion of the electorate abstained would be a serious matter in any democratic country.

There are two ways a voter can undermine the system: abstention (not bothering, or refusing, to vote, or annulling the ballot slip), or so-called "tactical voting" (dishonest).

Some countries, including Australia, make voting compulsory, but they might have an "Abstain" choice on the ballot slip.

Some people in the UK, where voting is voluntary, call for a box marked "None of the above", but really, if you cannot comphrehend a two syllable word like "Abstain" so need four monosyllables, what hope have you of comprending political debate in any sensible way?

"Tactical voting" , also called "Protest voting", applies to systems fielding at least three parties, so might be virtually non-existent in the USA - though I may be wrong there. It means that rather than voting for the party you support sincerely; you vote for another in the hope of making the third lose. So voting dishonestly, certainly not by sincerely-held principles.

Both abstaining and dishonest voting are bad for a democracy, and a refusal as high as a third is serious damage, whoever wins. It risks a close result not fairly representing the citizenship as a whole; but the non-voters have only themselves to blame.

I do not advocate compulsory voting even with an "Abstain" choice; but I do hope people do take their right to vote for their choice of party, as also their responsibility.

I have no time for "makes no difference", "can't be bothered", "they [politicians] are all the same" ["same" as what or whom?] and similar lazy excuses for not even thinking. Nor for those who complain about, or even indeed welcome, the result but admit having not voted.

Irrespective of their nation and its parties, such people are un-, or even anti- democratic.

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The above of course applies in democracies. Dictatorships do have elections but are shams made to return foregone results for the premier or party in charge. There, it would not matter if no-one votes. Many Iranians did not vote in their last general-election, so predictably perhaps the regime blamed it on foreign propaganda, not on a few, simple home truths about itself.

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jehova · 31-35, M
@jshm2 yes i know thus not a democracy. A republic with "democratic" elections and an oligarchical\aristocrstic safeguard (power to override\nullify democratic outcomes).
Not a democracy
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
If all 36.7% were a conscious decision to reject all.of the candidates on the ballot, then this would ring true. However, a sizeable proportion probably were not bothered or forgot to vote, which is not a valid or coherent political stance.
jehova · 31-35, M
@SunshineGirl possibly too busy or chose not to i doubt very many "forgot" to vote.
MartinII · 70-79, M
I think you need a lesson in the American electoral system. It's pretty much the same elsewhere too.
jehova · 31-35, M
[MarnII] so is Americas sham democracy; in which the popular vote is ushurped by a slavery era institution. This time it "worked" (the popular and electoral selected the same candidate), however given the electoral college was intended to safeguard the people from the worst\most dangerous of candidates, id say it is purely a vestige.
These first 5 weeks are proving that point strongly. And Mr. Trump is a "lame duck" president, therefore the next 3 years and 47 weeks are going to be painful and very harmful to America's reputation and institutions.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@MartinII Yup. pretty much. This gentleman has admitted to a TBI and IMHO it affects his thinking and reasoning.
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PalteseMalconFunch · 36-40, T
There is no runoff for presidential elections in the US

There is no law requiring someone to get 50% of the popular vote

The “potential popular vote” is not a real thing

That’s why
jehova · 31-35, M
@PalteseMalconFunch see now we are geting to the crux of it!
PalteseMalconFunch · 36-40, T
@jehova Yea, that’s been the case forever. The electoral college is nonsensical.
jehova · 31-35, M
@PalteseMalconFunch agree. Its an antiquated old man (mostly white) country club. The rest of us are but peasants to those oligarchs and estatesmen.
swirlie · F
That is why I have always maintained that the choosing of the President of the United States should be taken out of the hands of the American citizens for all the reasons you've stated in your reasoning.

Americans, whether they get out to vote or not, are generally uneducated in political matters and most typically are ill-informed or totally misinformed about the candidates of choice.


Why then, does the rest of the free world have to suffer the consequences of the inept American voter who quite frankly, couldn't find his asss using both hands at the best of times, nor does he give a damn one way or the other unless he's personally invested in a popular political cult like MAGA?
thisguy20 · 41-45, M
Love that idea: it makes donOLD's second term as illegitimate as "his" first
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
Sour grapes wants his pedantic and personal wishes on the last Presidential election validated.

Save it for 2028.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@jehova The Guardian??? Are you an American?
jehova · 31-35, M
@SumKindaMunster yes ; i read international perspecives too we are a nation of immigrants and im part native American. Are you. Foreignor? I consider all perspectives then form my own oppinion. I try to.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@jehova Yes I am an American. Born and raised here.
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jehova · 31-35, M
@whowasthatmaskedman how would you\we know that? Agriculture is lowest cost of production. We can make all the excuses in the world but until implemented we dont know cost of production.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@jehova agribusiness costs are pretty well know.. Look at the costs of producing wheat or corn as your guide.😷
jehova · 31-35, M
@whowasthatmaskedman look at the cost of gasoline it has improved; everyyhing else is dependant on that.

 
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