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Did you know that Ukraine was a country before it entered Donald Trump's vocabulary?

Did you know where it was on the map?

Most people think Ukraine is a political / news topic as we tend to do to human lives. Believe it or not, people were born and lived there before it was talked about in the political sphere.

Just like Syria, Iran, etc. etc.

But they're just political pawns to us.

I will regret posting this because I know some dumbass will have some confidently incorrect and dehumanizing thing to say, and four other idiots will be dumb enough to upvote it.

No matter what you say, you're talking about innocent men, women and children. That's on you.
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I have lived in a diaspora neighborhood for 15 years and know that none of the simplistic sports teams approach to this that you see on this site is educated or informed.
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I'm not sure what exactly that means but I think it's bad. I'm sorry.
@SinlessOnslaught Well for one the west likes to pretend Ukraine is a cultural, ethnic and, political monolith that supports American and NATO colonization of eastern Europe and support the far right "ultra nationalist" forces that effectively run the country.

Or the rewriting of Ukrainian history to make the OUN-B and the Waffen SS the real heroes of the Eastern Front in WW2.

You also have the descendants of the OUN-B fascist terrorists who were given safe haven in Canada and the USA who are behind the rewrite of history and white washing fascism in Ukraine and the very people who reconstituted the OUN-B, Right Sector, and the Azov movement since 1991.

I mean shit the Ukrainian Canadian Congress that is being treated as the voice of Ukraine in Canada was founded by an OUN-B fascist militant.

Canada and the US have the bizarre distinction of being the country that both the victims and perpetrators of fascism in Ukraine fled to after WW2.

And for a man who claims to be Jewish Zelensky has made the bizarre choice to push through decrees forcing Ukrainian Orthodox believers to either continue to practice as they have for centuries and be suspected of collaboration or recognize a schismatic church the Patriarch of Constantinople himself called heretics a few years ago and switch calendars making them Eastern Catholics in everything but name as a show of loyalty to the state.

I am sure it is just a coincidence that Ukrainian fascism came out of the Catholic territories in the west that was actually part of Poland 80 years ago.

Based on this alone it seems that Zelensky is trying to create even more sectarian tensions to make the country ungovernable if he loses power.

Then you have Hungarian Ukrainians who see Victor Orban as the only person looking out for them and well Romanian Ukrainians don't seem to have anyone in their corner.




To be honest alot of this feels like Yugoslavia 30 years ago. You still have people who think Serbs are bad even though they still have no idea what a Serb is.

The truth is nobody in western governments have the best interests of Ukrainians at heart anymore than they cared about whether girls could go to school in Afghanistan.