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Ukraine is losing battles inside their borders. Zelenskyy could have kept all his soldiers in Ukraine, but he decided to split his army and send troops to invade Kursk oblast in Russia. It has been speculated that he did this to strengthen his position in future peace talks. Putin has sent soldiers from all over Russia to take back Kursk. He is also sending 100 Russian operatives from the “Bear Brigade” from Burkina Faso.

Russia looks set to take Pokrovsk and Chasiv Yar, two cities still partially under Ukrainian control.
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DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
This war has been going on for over two and a half years now. And against not only a much bigger country, yet against a nuclear power at that.

I believe the Ukrainian government knows exactly what they are doing, to keep it up that long.

Scare tactics are not going to convince the rest of the world that Ukrainian government is wrong!

Scare tactics are the Russians game anyway.

And Zelenskyy isn't a military tactician. He's got generals for that. You're blaming the wrong person in any scenario.

Wars now days are not run by dictators any more. Like Putin could be an effective tactician as well! He as well has generals for that.

Same could be said of any countries leaders around the world.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@DeWayfarer
And Zelenskyy isn't a military tactician. He's got generals for that. You're blaming the wrong person in any scenario.

This is not a war between Ukraine and Russia. It is a conflict between the US and Russia, a campaign of attrition to wear Russia down. Zelensky is a chess piece moved by the strategists in the Pentagon.

If I were Putin, I would reciprocate and open a war front at our southern border with Mexico and fund a CIA style incursion using criminal elements from Central and South America. Texas would bus these "asylum seekers" to sanctuary cities all over the US. They won't be committing petty crimes breaking into apartments. They would be blowing up infrastructure and putting the fear of God into the woke warmongers in this forum.
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sree251 · 41-45, M
@DeWayfarer
wrong! This war is a NATO and EU war and since the USA as well as other non EU nations are apart of NATO that includes the UK and Canada.

Don't forget Australia and New Zealand. They will be roped in when the US turn its attention on China.

Russia started this!

You sound like a kid caught in a fight in a school playground. When are you going to grow up?
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@sree251 when the eastern continents stop bullying!

You never back down from a bully! That only makes things worse!

They take and take and take and it NEVER EVER STOPS! Until you finally do something about it!

Believe me I actually have fought my own share of bullies before. Sometimes you get a bloody nose, yet they don't get away without damage themselves!

Therefore they stop bullying!
sree251 · 41-45, M
@DeWayfarer
when the eastern continents stop bullying!

You never back down from a bully! That only makes things worse!

Eastern continents bullying who? We had the most formidable military force the world has ever known since the Soviet Union ended the Cold War and disbanded the Warsaw Pact. Russia had asked to join NATO and be a part of the US led rules-based order but was rejected. China's coolies have been serving us building our railroads when we opened up the American frontier and recycling our garbage in addition to making goods for us at rock bottom prices for the past 45 years. Meanwhile, we have been ruling the seas with our blue water navy and bombing the shit out of little countries since Vietnam. We are the only goddam bully on the planet. And you are goddam right about making things worse. China hears you. Russia hears you also. The fortunate thing for the world is that we are no longer fit enough to bully anyone.
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emiliya · 22-25, F
@DeWayfarer “And Zelenskyy isn't a military tactician. He's got generals for that. You're blaming the wrong person in any scenario.”

Zelenskyy can be advised by generals, but what is decided it is up to the US government and him. If the US government and Zelenskyy think it is a good idea to invade Russia, that is what they will do.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@emiliya oh that's funny, because that's was specifically what Biden didn't want and advised him.

Then it became too late! So the go ahead was given! You can't withdraw your forces over a phone call!

Not on special operations in the works! The Russians would intercept and the operation spotted. They don't need even to know what the message was. They still would have been spotted.
ididntknow · 56-60, M
@emiliya Zelenskyy isn’t in charge in Ukraine, America is, the CIA etc, the whole aim of the proxy war, is to get regime change in Russia, then pillage the country, just like America always does, because America is in deep debt, $ 1 trillion every 100 days is added to America’s debt in interest on their borrowing
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@ididntknow then you explain why Biden was mad at Zelensky for even starting the first covert operation!

That forced Biden's hand! He absolutely had to give the go ahead!

It was immediately after that covert operation that Biden sent offensive missiles. He had to because of that covert operation.

He really didn't want to up the scale of this war!
ididntknow · 56-60, M
@DeWayfarer oh really, and you fall for the little play acting do you, grow up, smoke and mirrors,
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@ididntknow I'm definitely no little kid that believes in ghosts and goblins are going to make conspiracies on the real world!
sree251 · 41-45, M
@DeWayfarer
I'm definitely no little kid that believes in ghosts and goblins are going to make conspiracies on the real world!

There is more than one real world. What is real to you is a conspiracy theory to another. This is why we have wars.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@sree251 without Russia's OBVIOUS aggression this NEVER would have started!

There's no conspiracy theories in that!
sree251 · 41-45, M
@DeWayfarer
without Russia's OBVIOUS aggression this NEVER would have started!

There's no conspiracy theories in that!

Russia's "aggression" is a response to our aggression. The Russian bear went into hibernation when the Soviet Union was dissolved after Gorbachev took down the wall and ended the Cold War. There were only 15 nations in the NATO gang back then. Instead of dismantling NATO, it further expanded after the Cold War, adding the Czech Republic, Hungary, and Poland (1999); Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, and Slovenia (2004); Albania and Croatia (2009); Montenegro (2017); North Macedonia (2020); Finland (2023); and Sweden (2024). Russia's request to join NATO was rejected. NATO is the aggressor and wants to include Ukraine in its military bloc to confront Russia. You got your wish. Russia has responded.

We are cowards. If the US has the balls, we would have taken out Russia on our own. We couldn't even take out Vietnam. The NATO pack is a bunch of wimmen. It is embarrassing.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@sree251 who made the first real shot?

RUSSIA!

There's no IF that!

It's being REAL!

The reasons are irrelevant, because no shot was fired before Russia did so!
sree251 · 41-45, M
@DeWayfarer
who made the first real shot?

RUSSIA!

There's no IF that!

Russia fights like a man out in the open. We fight like a woman using the CIA to set up a proxy war using the Ukrainians. Why don't we sent US troops in instead of sending weapons? The Russians are there waiting for us in Ukraine.
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sree251 · 41-45, M
@DeWayfarer
since you think we are being little kids, there's a kid's saying that totally applies!

Oh no! Little kids have balls. I was a kid once and got a bloody nose when the other kid threw a punch. Kids don't make threats. We fight like wimmen under cover using the CIA and tons of money to pay others to do the fighting.
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MeisterAndrew · 41-45, M
@sree251 Russia still sees Ukraine as part of the USSR, that's what this "war" is about. They even wanted to rope our country into their new federation with BRICS. And if anybody thinks Russia is winning anything, they're losing more than a thousand soldiers a day with well over half a million by now. Putin isn't winning anything here but can't admit to the world he didn't and can't achieve what he set out to.

This has set events and sanctions in motion that will ultimately bring Russia to its knees. Then the real demands will start that in return for Western help to rebuild there has to be complete disarmament.
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sree251 · 41-45, M
@MeisterAndrew
Russia still sees Ukraine as part of the USSR, that's what this "war" is about. They even wanted to rope our country into their new federation with BRICS. And if anybody thinks Russia is winning anything, they're losing more than a thousand soldiers a day with well over half a million by now. Putin isn't winning anything here but can't admit to the world he didn't and can't achieve what he set out to.

This has set events and sanctions in motion that will ultimately bring Russia to its knees. Then the real demands will start that in return for Western help to rebuild there has to be complete disarmament.

It is strange that you have a perspective of the western bloc aligned against the rest of the world. Yes, the US and NATO wants to disarm Russia. Then, they want to disarm China. This will ensure that the western bloc controls the world and establish its rules-based order. This the plan. As Mike Tyson said, "everybody has a plan until he gets punched in the mouth".

The Russians are not that easy to bring to their knees. In WW2, Germany alone was taking on the whole of Europe including the UK and the US. It conquered Europe and about to bring the UK to its knees with the bombing of London. Then, it turned around and attacked Russia. The Russians fought the Germans to a standstill in Leningrad and essentially broke their spirit. And now, we think we can bring Russia to its knees? China is not going to let that happen because the Chinese knows that they are next to be disarmed by the US and NATO. China had suffered 100 years of humiliation by Japan and the west. They will fight along with Russia to the death against the US. We Americans can't fight. And they know it.
MeisterAndrew · 41-45, M
@sree251 Because of how the Eastern block behaves. Germany started strong but was under a strong delusion. They continued executing their own people while it was clear they already lost the war. Hitler told his generals to send in the Luftwaffe when there was nothing left of it but nobody could bring themselves to tell him that.

Russia is a shadow of its former self as we saw from their screwups in other armed conflicts. They are only strong on home ground but lack the logistics and expertise to fight wars. Which is why I think Zelenski should focus more on tiring out Russia by focusing on strategy and keeping them out. Only their allies won't let them attack Russian assets like oil pipelines but it will happen anyway. There's nothing more dangerous than a cornered bear with nothing more to lose which is why nobody will let it get to that point. If Ukraine loses this war they know they'll all lose so will do everything they can to keep dragging it out.

China is just sitting on the sidelines watching and doesn't want to interfere because they know that what happens will dictate where they stand with Japan.
emiliya · 22-25, F
@MeisterAndrew Russia is not being brought to its knees. Putin has many more men to throw at this war; more than Ukraine. Ukraine is running out of men, and next year they may be running out of weapons. If Trump is elected US president, how are they going to continue fighting? They need weapons to fight. Even with all the weapons they have now, they are struggling against Russia. Russia is pushing them out of territories. They have lost 20% of their country. Many Ukrainians have left and abandoned their homeland. I can understand why women would leave with their children. Cities across eastern Ukraine are deserted.

The economy in Russia is doing very well, with only real issue being how we are going to sufficiently fill the workforce in the coming years. What effect have these sanctions had? China, India, Africa, Iran, and others still do business with Russia.