NO DOUBLE STANDARDS...

In WWII Japan bombed Pearl Harbour bringing America into the war.... America later firebombed Tokyo.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Tokyo .. about 100,000 died.. America was able to establish a naval blockade that stopped food deliveries to Japan and starved the entire nation nearly into submission but starved them none the less..... To end the war two atomic bombs were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki eventually killing close to 300,000 Japanese.. I read a LOT of history and context and I don't recall anyone from America feeling the least pity or regret at the measures taken to obtain the surrender of Japan with one condition that the emperor could remain emperor accepted by President Harry Truman... civilians were subjected to firebombing, starvation, nuclear weapons... they were ALL the enemy as far as everyone was concerned...
So why tell me when facing extreme barbarity.. loosing proportionately more than 20 times the population that America lost in the attacks on Pearl Harbour.. is Israel being harassed under a double standard to not only cease fire - but to actually entertain discussions on allowing a state to be created of miscreants and evil doers on Israels territory..? Why and we know the answer - is Israel being subjected to a double standard the likes that NO nation has EVER been held to ? Its called anti semitism, Jew hatred only because we are Jews and worse because we can now defend ourselves and the world does not seem to like a Jew who can fight back.... Israel has the ABSOLUTE right to defend itself and to shed itself permanently of the scourge of Hamas and terrorism, of the threat that Iran and its proxies represent.. and capitulation / appeasement .. as history teaches us is NOT ... an option.. DESTRUCTION and ELIMINATION of the enemy - a sworn enemy of the Jewish People is the ONLY OPTION..
I support the State of Israel, its inhabitants, Jews EVERYWHERE and I make ZERO apologies for this.. I don't care if they riot on Campuses -the few trying to convince the many.. to support the unsupportable... I am very grateful that the criminals ... are being arrested...
Jews you see require an additional character attribute.. A stiff backbone.. KNOWING what is morally correct and why we are acting - we were attacked and we warned ALL enemies that never again.. means exactly what it says.. There is a REASON Israel is at WAR.. and there is a reason we must FINISH this war and achieve ALL our objectives.. We can not fight eighty percent of a fire - we have to extinguish it..
So LIKE no one felt sorrow or pity for Japanese civilians who were killed in the prosecution of the war to achieve the surrender of the Japanese - Israel must continue to prosecute this war until Hamas has been defeated and Gaza has been SUBJUGATED and occupied just as Japan was... There is NO double standard the very same rules apply..
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M

War is horrible beyond description. And at its core it is a way of enforcing political power, which used to be simple. Our army beat your army on the field of battle and we won. But by the time of the American civil war it was realised that attcking the civilian population and its supply machine enabled a side to weaken the ability of the enemy forces to fight..Starve an army and reduce its supply of weapons and you win..
Only since the Nuclear age, the major players have the ability to turn "the enemy" territory into a blackened glass ashtray and remove the threat, leaving only a PR problem..😷

pdqsailor1 · 61-69, M

@whowasthatmaskedman When as was the case with the sneak attack by Japan one nation strikes another and kills substantial numbers of citizens.. War is required as such behaviour is beyond acceptance..

Same thing with Israel being attacked by Hamas on October 7th.. War was entirely justified.. Proportionally the toll would have been like America loosing 70,000 people and such behaviour is beyond acceptance..

whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M

@pdqsailor1 As a moral person I agree with you. As a human animal I will do anything to survive. And as an act of vengeance on those who bring harm to my family there is literally no limit to my cruelty.. And thats how we get to where we are...😷

pdqsailor1 · 61-69, M

@whowasthatmaskedman Well stated, well said.. I am a Jew and one with a particular pedigree.. My Late Father was an officer, a Captain in the Palmach in 1948... His Colonel was Yitschack Rabin - his specialty was teaching both civilians and enlisted personnel small arms training.. I have plenty of family in Israel but I live in Canada and about a year ago for the first time - I picked up a gun.. I am licensed, I now go to the range regularly and I take target practice a bit more seriously than some others do.. Those that bring harm to MY family, well I agree with you that there is no limit to my cruelty either.. I think about Hamas knee caps when I nail centre on the target ten out of ten times..

whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M

@pdqsailor1 I will preface this by saying I am putting my humanity aside to answer. This is not about good or bad, right or wrong. Its a cold, pragmatic approach to the "problem".
The wider conflict aside with Iran and America in the background with their own agendas, Hamas has a long history of sniping and raiding across the borders and then hiding among and behind the Palestinian people, hampering the efforts of the Israeli military. Then they wait for someone to make a mistake and parade the civilian casualties that will always arise.. They control the narrative..This time with over a 1000 dead, the Israelis have determined its time to fumigate the whole house and get every last 'roach. To do that they will push everyone out of Gaza, and decide what happens to the land later..As it happens, neither Egypt, nor anyone else wants the Palestinians. So the borders are closed..And until the Palestinians turn on Hamas themselves, the pressure will stay on.. As much as the Americans are making statements about stopping ther fighting, they are still sending bombs and bullets to Israel. And there is the real US position on it.. I am not condoning any of what Israel is doing. But I dont see another way of solving their problem so it doesnt happen again.. This is the only way.. The Romans had a similar problem with Carthage. They solved it in a similar manner and it stayed solved and sent the message not to f**k with Rome loud and clear..😷

NerdyPotato · M

@pdqsailor1 finally some sensible words from you. I personally wouldn't go as far as calling the October 7th attacks justified, but there was good cause for some counter action. I'll take your justification of that over your previous support for killing already suppressed, starving, unarmed civilians by the tens of thousands.

pdqsailor1 · 61-69, M

@whowasthatmaskedman Agreed...

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pdqsailor1 · 61-69, M

@NerdyPotato My point about civilian casualties was very simple.. History shows us America had zero problem doing this to the tune of well over a million civilian Japanese before they finally surrendered.. so DEMANDING a cease fire, decrying MODERATE, regrettable ... civilian deaths... given this history is a double standard that is unsupportable.. Do as I say not as I do? WTF? No one demanded that a cease fire be placed on the USA.. no one protested world wide on university campuses against America aggression against Japan... When you examine the historical facts vs the current comments... frankly the objections are themselves objectionable. Remember that Hamas could have prevented ANY civilian casualties by surrendering and releasing the hostages.. they chose NOT to do so..

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