Controversial opinion but.

Ukraine isn't the only war going right now.

There's a civil war in Ethiopia and unnecessary bombing by Saudis in Yemen and killing kids there.

Why has this war affected you more than the other wars? Cause the people involved are white-ish?

See, all wars are bad. It's just so sad seeing normal people suffer. But, imagine supporting sending weapons to ukraine and pressuring Russia when your goverments are already doing full business with Saudis.

I'm not comparing wars. Every war sucks and should never happen, including when the Americans tried to control the middle East. I'm just pointing out the underlying racism.

There are no good guys in a war. It's always the civilians who suffer. This time, the civilians are considered white.

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CrazyMusicLover · 31-35

Because it affects me, people around me and probably will even more in future. If Ukraine gets defeated we will be next.

If you refer to civilians being killed it's equally horrible everywhere. It doesn't matter who is on the footage from war it affects me emotionally equally.

Elessar · 26-30, M

@CrazyMusicLover You guys are NATO though. If you get attacked chances are that we all become a pile of ash (best case scenario) or slowly die of radiation poisoning and/or starvation no matter where we're sitting right now.

I'd be far more worried if I were a Finn or a Moldovan, if Ukraine fell, tbh

CrazyMusicLover · 31-35

@Elessar Nobody says that in the case of attack there would be nuclear weapons involved. I think it's very unlikely. I don't rely on NATO, they can dump us as a trash if they decide it's worth the peace in the west. We're not important to other European countries, we would be no economic loss to them.

I don't think they have intention to take Finland and Moldova was confirmed to be on their list already. Then probably Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania.

Well, I don't know but internal tension is no fun either. People are getting gun licences and buy guns, some are getting scared and nervous about refugees...I just wish this won't radicalize people to join far-right groups.

Elessar · 26-30, M

@CrazyMusicLover The whole NATO and the credibility of the west would crumble if even a single country was left on its own after invoking art 5 however, with repercussions that would spare no one. There would be no peace at that point, no other country would be safe, not even ones that are somewhat "distant" from the conflict at the moment, countries would fracture under internal dissent. The various economies would get wrecked in the process too, other currently neutral countries (🇨🇳) would initiate other expansionist campaigns elsewhere, considering NATO no longer much of a treat. I don't really envision that as a likely scenario, to be honest, it's as likely to trigger a world conflict as it would be engaging directly Russian forces, and in addition to that, to initiate it with a much lower morale on our . If the west didn't want to risk its economy over this conflict why impose sanctions or donate equipment, intel and weapons in the first place to a country that it's not obligated to defend? And *after* that, refuse to defend a country that it's obligated by a treaty to?

Anything involving a direct confrontation between NATO and Russian forces may easily escalate into a nuclear exchange, even if the initial response was conventional. It's been avoided for so long for a very very good reason. I don't think even Putin is that crazy to escalate to that before hitting some other place harder to defend, which is the reason why getting NATO membership is getting so popular in Finland and Sweden right now.

Yes, we're on a hell of a sh*tty ride and I can really imagine the tension is even higher over there. 🙁