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Bumbles · 51-55, M
Ukraine didn’t join NATO. Putin invaded Ukraine. Simple.
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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Bumbles Start chowing down. I am basing that on recent polls.
Bumbles · 51-55, M
@milkymum1 “Not caring” is an exaggeration, but Ukraine was not in a place to mount a counter offensive. Further, criticizing the West for appeasing Piston is reasonable. Comparisons to appeasing Hitler are apt.
The obvious difference however, is going into Ukraine to make it cease to exist as a sovereign nation verses taking a chunk. You said it yourself, going into Ukraine “fully.”
The obvious difference however, is going into Ukraine to make it cease to exist as a sovereign nation verses taking a chunk. You said it yourself, going into Ukraine “fully.”
JSul3 · 70-79
Putin invaded Ukraine. End of topic.
Bumbles · 51-55, M
@hippyjoe1955 [quote] Putin has not invaded Ukraine. If he had Kiev would be occupied[/quote]
Okay, well, there ya’ go. Enjoy the rest of your day..
Okay, well, there ya’ go. Enjoy the rest of your day..
JSul3 · 70-79
@milkymum1 There was quite an uproar over Putin taking Crimea.
How quickly you forget. It was condemned.
On 21 February 2014, Yanukovych fled Ukraine via Crimea to Russia. The following day, the Ukrainian parliament voted to remove him from his post. Just a few weeks later on the 27 February, groups of armed masked soldiers without insignias appeared on the streets of Crimea. They became known as the little green men. The soldiers surrounded the airports in Simferopol and Sevastopol, and most military bases in Crimea and later seized key government buildings. A referendum was held within Crimea on 16 March. The results apparently indicated that 95.5% of voters were in favour of joining Russia. But the vote was condemned by the EU as illegal and illegitimate, asserting that its outcome would not be recognised.
A few days later, Putin signed a treaty, incorporating Crimea into the Russian Federation. Ukraine evacuated some 25 thousand military personnel and their families from Crimea. The US and the EU were quick to condemn the invasion. Sanctions were put in place including asset freezes and travel bans on Russian officials.
The G8 summit that was to be held in Russia that year was cancelled, and Russia’s membership with the group was suspended. But the restrictions made little change to Putin’s agenda.
How quickly you forget. It was condemned.
On 21 February 2014, Yanukovych fled Ukraine via Crimea to Russia. The following day, the Ukrainian parliament voted to remove him from his post. Just a few weeks later on the 27 February, groups of armed masked soldiers without insignias appeared on the streets of Crimea. They became known as the little green men. The soldiers surrounded the airports in Simferopol and Sevastopol, and most military bases in Crimea and later seized key government buildings. A referendum was held within Crimea on 16 March. The results apparently indicated that 95.5% of voters were in favour of joining Russia. But the vote was condemned by the EU as illegal and illegitimate, asserting that its outcome would not be recognised.
A few days later, Putin signed a treaty, incorporating Crimea into the Russian Federation. Ukraine evacuated some 25 thousand military personnel and their families from Crimea. The US and the EU were quick to condemn the invasion. Sanctions were put in place including asset freezes and travel bans on Russian officials.
The G8 summit that was to be held in Russia that year was cancelled, and Russia’s membership with the group was suspended. But the restrictions made little change to Putin’s agenda.
TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 41-45, MVIP
Absolutely every soul on planet earth not profiting from this shamozzle..
have been saying that for 2 years…
have been saying that for 2 years…
BizSuitStacy · M
Great video Joe! Thank you for sharing this. Mearsheimer is 💯 on 🎯
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