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Gearing up for WW3

After Russia then China?

Regular people want answers and a liveable world and PEACE!

Send COOPERATION not guns.

from a 2015 video with John Meirsheimer[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4]
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
If the Russians wanted peace they wouldn’t have 100,000 troops sitting on their border with a sovereign country

They wouldn’t be trying o dictate what that sovereign country could and could not do

The autocratic dictator Putin would be gone, along with his neurotic dream of rebuilding the Soviet Union

if the Russians wanted peace
@newjaninev2 [image deleted]by land and sea
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
So you would just let the Russian or China in case of India or any aggressor just have their way?

Well that reminds me of a song.

If we do nothing they'll just keep a coming!


If US history or recently Crimea wasn't example enough then perhaps this...

History will keep repeating until a better way comes around. Are you really willing to do nothing? That's history as well. Greece and the Romans!
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@DeWayfarer Kruschev made the original fuckup - it should have been rectified in the 90s. Gorby wasn’t in a position to do it - though if his all-voluntary union was allowed to go through, Crimeans would have remained in the USSR - that was the reason they reestablished the republic via referendum prior to dissolution, it allowed them to leave Ukraine if Ukraine left the USSR.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@QuixoticSoul still it was Gorbachev that [b]could[/b] have done something. But didn't. Khrushchev was long dead in the 90s.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@DeWayfarer Gorby tried to create the framework for various automous republics to remain, but he was never in a position to alter territorial lines willy nilly, things have changed since Kruschev was around. Yeltsin and Kuchma should have resolved it, but both had other things to worry about. A succession of Ukrainian administrations could have allowed for peaceful separation instead of squashing Crimeans’ attempts to do so, but there was little for them to gain by agreeing.

Still, Kruschev created this entire situation, which is why I primarily blame him.
redredred · M
The US needs to make very tough decisions. They need to withdraw every soldier from foreign soil, make public a declaration that ANY act of aggression against the US will be met with force up to and including total nuclear annihilation, re-establish energy independence, and deal with digital and economic attacks as if they were military attack.

We don’t need allies or enemies. If you don’t agree, don’t worry. This will never happen.
@redredred i didn't marry him. he had a coke habit. his cousin was a psychotic witch who came up to me in the 5th grade and said she hated me because of the way i looked...and he sided with her? he ended up being very violent and wasn't good at anything. and moved home with his mommy when i went to Florida to see my sister have her baby. I did tell him to grow up while i was gone. he went home everyday to his mom for lunch.
redredred · M
@DIABLISS good call. I tried coke a few times but decided I didn’t like it. Most drugs sort of suck. I’ve discovered I’m already stupid enough and don’t need any chemical assist.
@redredred i never did drugs. i am a Penelope.
The North Atlantic Treaty Organization was created in 1949 by the United States, Canada, and several Western European nations to provide collective security against the Soviet Union. ... After the destruction of the Second World War, the nations of Europe struggled to rebuild their economies and ensure their security.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Burnley123 A settlement of what? This ‘issue’ was initiated by Russia, and orchestrated by Russia.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@RodionRomanovitch Next the autocratic murderer Putin will be talking about liberating Russians living in Ukraine under the unbearable yoke of Ukrainian oppression, and his responsibility to save them
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@newjaninev2 That is highly arguable.
sending guns is the American way. We helped the Persians with their issues in the 70's and 80's and then it turned around and bit us on the ass. It is like we do it to initiate conflict on purpose.
@DIABLISS we are not INITIATING conflict the Russian Ukraine set up started in the Gorby and REAGAN era and the betrayals against the USSR were shameful

Its uglier and way less human now onour side

Americas ONE export is the destruction of stability and autonomy and other peoples chances EVERYWHERE

its fun and lucrative for the rich here now GAG ME for talking

but if u wanna see what I just read look at this...
"The goal of Russia is not to destroy Ukraine—this could be accomplished at any time. Rather, the goal of Russia is to destroy NATO."..consortium news...[image=https://consortiumnews.com/2022/02/11/the-ultimate-end-of-nato/]
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
I don't have an issue with NATO existing as an alliance of countries. The problem is in its aggressive and expansionist nature. It should stay out of eastern Europe.

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