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LLcoolK · 51-55, M
@trollslayer Another one takes the hook. Thanks "trollslaya"!
ElwoodBlues · M
@LLcoolK Low prices aren't everything, dude.
I'm not the one who voted for giant cuts to the National Weather Service and NOAA. DOGE has consequences.
On July 5th, after floods in Texas killed at least 50 with a further 15+ missing, county officials there are now citing erroneous weather predictions for contributing to the problem. These risks were pointed out a couple months ago by all five living directors of the NWS — back when tRump was cutting NWS staffing and research.
I'm not the one who voted for giant cuts to the National Weather Service and NOAA. DOGE has consequences.
Several NWS offices around the country are worse off than San Angelo or Austin-San Antionio, working with such thin staffing that they no longer operate 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
Many NWS forecast offices have ceased launching their twice-a-day weather balloons, which provide critical data that can alert forecasters to the potential for flooding and other hazardous weather.
Many NWS forecast offices have ceased launching their twice-a-day weather balloons, which provide critical data that can alert forecasters to the potential for flooding and other hazardous weather.
On July 5th, after floods in Texas killed at least 50 with a further 15+ missing, county officials there are now citing erroneous weather predictions for contributing to the problem. These risks were pointed out a couple months ago by all five living directors of the NWS — back when tRump was cutting NWS staffing and research.
NWS was among the government agencies targeted by the Department of Government Efficiency in its effort to gut the federal bureaucracy, losing approximately 600 staffers.
After the cuts, the agency—which was already understaffed—began to prepare to offer “degraded” forecasting services, facing “severe shortages” of meteorologists, according to an internal document obtained by The New York Times in April.
“The original forecast that we received Wednesday from the National Weather Service predicted 3-6 inches of rain in the Concho Valley and 4-8 inches in the Hill Country,” said Texas Emergency Management Chief W. Nim Kidd at a press conference Friday. “The amount of rain that fell at this specific location was never in any of those forecasts.”
Sudden thunderstorms dumped more than 10 inches of rain on the area, causing heavy flooding from the Guadalupe River.
Dalton Rice, the city manager for Kerrville, Texas—who also spoke at the press conference—said that the catastrophic flash flooding happened because the skies “dumped more rain than what was forecasted” on two of the river’s forks.
The flooding has killed at least 27 people so far—18 adults and nine children. About 25 young girls from Camp Mystic, a Christian summer camp that sits near the river, are still missing.
... In May, all five living directors of the NWS issued a letter warning that Trump’s cuts “leave the nation’s official weather forecasting entity at a significant deficit ... just as we head into the busiest time for severe storm predictions like tornadoes and hurricanes,” the directors wrote. “Our worst nightmare is that weather forecast offices will be so understaffed that there will be needless loss of life.”
After the cuts, the agency—which was already understaffed—began to prepare to offer “degraded” forecasting services, facing “severe shortages” of meteorologists, according to an internal document obtained by The New York Times in April.
“The original forecast that we received Wednesday from the National Weather Service predicted 3-6 inches of rain in the Concho Valley and 4-8 inches in the Hill Country,” said Texas Emergency Management Chief W. Nim Kidd at a press conference Friday. “The amount of rain that fell at this specific location was never in any of those forecasts.”
Sudden thunderstorms dumped more than 10 inches of rain on the area, causing heavy flooding from the Guadalupe River.
Dalton Rice, the city manager for Kerrville, Texas—who also spoke at the press conference—said that the catastrophic flash flooding happened because the skies “dumped more rain than what was forecasted” on two of the river’s forks.
The flooding has killed at least 27 people so far—18 adults and nine children. About 25 young girls from Camp Mystic, a Christian summer camp that sits near the river, are still missing.
... In May, all five living directors of the NWS issued a letter warning that Trump’s cuts “leave the nation’s official weather forecasting entity at a significant deficit ... just as we head into the busiest time for severe storm predictions like tornadoes and hurricanes,” the directors wrote. “Our worst nightmare is that weather forecast offices will be so understaffed that there will be needless loss of life.”
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ElwoodBlues · M
@LLcoolK The office might still have been below expected staffing levels for a storm system like that. The people on the ground in Texas were quite vocal about the inadequacy of the warnings they received:
Texas Division of Emergency Management chief Nim Kidd told reporters at a press conference on Friday that NWS advisories and forecasts “did not predict the amount of rain we saw.”
When asked about the severity of the warnings he did see, Kidd said: “The original forecast that we received Wednesday from the National Weather Service predicted 3-6 inches of rain in the Concho Valley and 4-8 inches in the Hill Country. The amount of rain that fell at this specific location was never in any of those forecasts.”
Kidd was not the only Texas official to call into question the weather notices. Dalton Rice, the city manager for Kerrville, said it “dumped more rain than what was forecast.”
Kerr County judge Rob Kelly told reporters: “We didn’t know this flood was coming. Rest assured, no one knew this kind of flood was coming. We have floods all the time… when it rains, we get water. We had no reason to believe that this was going to be anything like what’s happened here. None whatsoever.” Kelly also said he did not know what kind of warning, if any, the leaders at Camp Mystic would have received ahead of the flash floods.
When asked about the severity of the warnings he did see, Kidd said: “The original forecast that we received Wednesday from the National Weather Service predicted 3-6 inches of rain in the Concho Valley and 4-8 inches in the Hill Country. The amount of rain that fell at this specific location was never in any of those forecasts.”
Kidd was not the only Texas official to call into question the weather notices. Dalton Rice, the city manager for Kerrville, said it “dumped more rain than what was forecast.”
Kerr County judge Rob Kelly told reporters: “We didn’t know this flood was coming. Rest assured, no one knew this kind of flood was coming. We have floods all the time… when it rains, we get water. We had no reason to believe that this was going to be anything like what’s happened here. None whatsoever.” Kelly also said he did not know what kind of warning, if any, the leaders at Camp Mystic would have received ahead of the flash floods.
LLcoolK · 51-55, M
@ElwoodBlues That's called weather. In 2017 Hurricane Harvey dropped 60" of rainfall in the area I live in when the forecast only called for 10"-13" of rain. That rainfall set a national record at the time. Weather forecasting has never been an exact science. Everyone knows that. For your political purposes, you pretend that weather forecasting is an exact science. Just because the city manager of Kerrville is quoted as saying that there was more rain than forecasted doesn't mean he's implicating fault. He's just stating a fact. Like so many other times, you draw your "information" from biased sources to try and support your weak arguments. What amazes me about leftists is that no matter how many times they are wrong, they just keep worshipping at the alter of progressive marxism.
ElwoodBlues · M
@LLcoolK Marxism, huh? Can you tell us what you mean by that word??
Trump made 30,573 lies & false claims during his first term as president:
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-made-30-573-false-205400099.html
tRump trimmed NWS and is shutting down NOAA because he wants to suppress the data on anthropogenic climate change. That's his agenda.
Hurricane Harvey dropped 60" of rainfall
Over a period of 4 to 5 DAYS. How many inches fell on the first day, the day the forecast applied to?? I bet it was 10 to 13, right?? And how many days warning did you have about the possible arrival of a hurricane?? no matter how many times they are wrong,
What amazes me about right wingers is that no matter how many times they are wrong, they just keep worshipping at the alter of tRumpism.Trump made 30,573 lies & false claims during his first term as president:
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-made-30-573-false-205400099.html
tRump trimmed NWS and is shutting down NOAA because he wants to suppress the data on anthropogenic climate change. That's his agenda.
JSul3 · 70-79
LLcoolK:
Oil is trading at approx. $68 per barrel.
Recall Trump touting "Drill baby! Drill!"
That is not going to happen until oil reaches $90 or more per barrel because it is not profitable to drill until then.
No president, including your orange felon, has any control over a world wide traded commodity.
Oil is trading at approx. $68 per barrel.
Recall Trump touting "Drill baby! Drill!"
That is not going to happen until oil reaches $90 or more per barrel because it is not profitable to drill until then.
No president, including your orange felon, has any control over a world wide traded commodity.
Livingwell · 61-69, M
ElwoodBlues · M
@LLcoolK says
Enjoy your blue state gasoline taxes in Oregon.
Enjoy your unforcasted floods in Texas.
LLcoolK · 51-55, M
@ElwoodBlues Leftists will always tell you exactly who they are.
ElwoodBlues · M
@LLcoolK Cultists will always cover for their cult leader.
Yes, there are new satellites with a different data stream, but the NWS personnel to adapt to that have greatly reduced by tRump's staffing cuts, and NOAA is getting a 30% funding cut.
Meteorologists and scientists warned of severe consequences last week when NOAA said, in the midst of this year’s hurricane season, that it would almost immediately discontinue key data collected by three weather satellites that the agency jointly runs with the Defense Department.
The Defense Meteorological Satellite Program’s microwave data gives key information that can’t be gleaned from conventional satellites. That includes three-dimensional details of a storm, what's going on inside of it and what it is doing in the overnight hours, experts say.
The data was initially planned to be cut off on June 30 “to mitigate a significant cybersecurity risk,” NOAA’s announcement said. The agency now says it's postponing that until July 31. Peak hurricane season is usually from mid-August to mid-October.
The Defense Meteorological Satellite Program’s microwave data gives key information that can’t be gleaned from conventional satellites. That includes three-dimensional details of a storm, what's going on inside of it and what it is doing in the overnight hours, experts say.
The data was initially planned to be cut off on June 30 “to mitigate a significant cybersecurity risk,” NOAA’s announcement said. The agency now says it's postponing that until July 31. Peak hurricane season is usually from mid-August to mid-October.
Yes, there are new satellites with a different data stream, but the NWS personnel to adapt to that have greatly reduced by tRump's staffing cuts, and NOAA is getting a 30% funding cut.
Reuters reported that CEOs of Canadian oil and gas producers said on Tuesday they are seeking to avoid making abrupt decisions as global oil prices hover around four-year lows and recession fears grow.
Yea, doing a wonderful job of messing everything up, but lower gas prices are certainly welcome.
Yea, doing a wonderful job of messing everything up, but lower gas prices are certainly welcome.
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MarkPaul · 26-30, M
Egg prices are at an all-time high along with all other groceries. Thanks for nothing (literally), Cry-Baby-trump!
LLcoolK · 51-55, M
I love it when loonie lefties can't hold their own. They delete their comments and leave the conversation.
ImperialAerosolKidFromEP · 51-55, M
@LLcoolK what if a conservative asks a tough question? Is he hooked and bucketed as well?
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