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China's government is practicing Confucianism. Why is this a threat?

US foreign policy regards China as a threat to world order based on liberal democracy. American military bases and troops are positioned in South Korea, Japan, and Philippines to confront and contain China. Do we have a right to force China to abandon Confucianism? Why do our foreign policy experts view Confucianism as harmful to humanity?
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Richard65 · M
You think they view China as a threat because of Confucianism?
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Richard65 I don't know why they view China as a threat but they do. US foreign policy experts are not philosophers. They are political scientists and military strategists. They want a secure world order imposed by the US.
Richard65 · M
@sree251 it has nothing to do with Confucianism. It's China's growing military and economic strength, allied with an extreme authoritarian ideology that completely negates the individual in favour of an obedient, almost robotic citizenship that regards the ruling Party and Chinese nationalism as more important than the family or personal autonomy.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Richard65
it has nothing to do with Confucianism.

I know that. We have many Confucian Institutes in the US but they are perceived as China's spies in America.

It's China's growing military and economic strength, allied with an extreme authoritarian ideology that completely negates the individual in favour of an obedient, almost robotic citizenship that regards the ruling Party and Chinese nationalism as more important than the family or personal autonomy.

China's military strength was always there and it more than matched ours in our defeats in both the Vietnam and Korean wars. China had to grow their military to match our war footing in East Asia.

China has no economic strength. She is a nation of 1.4 billion with a per capita GDP of $12,700 comparable to that of Mexico at $11,500. The US per capita GDP is $35,000. Do you expect the Chinese to live like our neighbors south of the border? They have taken care of their poor bottom 10% of their population and lifted 800 million out of poverty. They want to do more through economic expansion all over the world as the number one manufacturer/provider of essential affordable goods that people need. Is that a bad thing?

China has gotten rid of their super rich when they acted out like Jack Ma. There are still billionaires in China running their private enterprises but they are not allowed to step on the poor the way our rich and famous folks do here in America. They are indeed authoritarian when it comes to law and order but you won't find police there let alone armed with handguns and flak jacket like we have in the US. There are too many Chinese and not enough policemen. Anyone acting out in public will be dealt with by the people themselves. No American expats have been slapped around by them because we are law abiding. I wish we have robotic citizens in the US. People shoot to kill here even though we have armed police.
@sree251 Our government has very legitimate concerns over a nation that is and has been rising and has thrown off the yoke of foreign control from previous centuries. China has its eyes on the Pacific and parts of Asia that it wants to rule. They push the envelope on provocation with both Taiwan and the Philippines. Joe Biden has stated twice the U.S. is committed to defending Taiwan if attacked. We have a defense treaty with the Philippines if they’re attacked. The Chinese play games with the U. S. military as well. They are very advanced technology wise. They are very much advancing in the build up of its military. They are as I said rising. They are re energizing their military ties with Russia. They have started the belt road initiative which extends their reach into other nations. They are a large footprint in the African Continent( Howard French’s book “Africa, china’s second continent”). Interesting reading.
As for Confucianism, I recommend you look up the former Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo’s remarks on China’s inroads into the U.S. and how he viewed Confucius schools in this country.
Richard65 · M
@sree251 fine, but look at that last message I sent to you where I criticised China and the Party. If I'd lived in China, it's likely I'd be arrested or taken in for questioning by the Chinese authorities, just for posting that. That's if I'd even had a social media forum on which to post it in the first place. Take a look at Hong Kong and see what China has done there, immediately after the UK handed it over to them. It isn't pretty.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Richard65
If I'd lived in China, it's likely I'd be arrested or taken in for questioning by the Chinese authorities, just for posting that. That's if I'd even had a social media forum on which to post it in the first place.

I can't answer your question because I have not lived in China. I can believe that anyone out to create mischief inciting public disorder would be taken out in double quick time. The Chinese people work all the time. They need to keep their businesses running 24/7. We Americans can't deal with that kind of toil. We like to mess around with our protests and burning of police cars.
Richard65 · M
@sree251 okay, you've aired your completely ludicrous view of China, and it's clear there's little point in debating with someone like yourself, who reads reams of information, only to demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of reality.
Good luck.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Richard65 Hey, thanks for the conversation. I wished we had bantered a bit about Confucianism.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@soar2newhighs
As for Confucianism, I recommend you look up the former Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo’s remarks on China’s inroads into the U.S. and how he viewed Confucius schools in this country.

You view China through the eyes of Mike Pompeo?