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Pretzel · 70-79, M
well there was a line of thought that it was about "state's rights".

and that seemed plausible - until you realized that the right that they most wanted to preserve ...

was the right town slaves.
ViciDraco · 41-45, M
@Pretzel It's also a great irony that the largest trigger was that they wanted to deny the right of northern states to stop slave hunters from hunting slaves within their own borders. That was actually the issue of the day that was inciting them.
Pretzel · 70-79, M
@ViciDraco I did a real quick search so not sure how accurate but something that amazed me...

75% of the people didn't own slaves
that means that 75% of the population went to war, fought and died for the rich people - which seems to be kind of a pattern in human history.

IsawDDevil · 36-40, M
They were traitors, slave holding racial constitutionalist.
AdmiralPrune · 46-50, M
There were several issues that caused the war, but certainly slavery was the biggest issue.

The south had made their economies so slave dependant that they only had the options of financial ruin, or war. Both happened.
Northwest · M
Why do some people claim the civil war in the South wasn't about slavery?

The civil war was not in the South. Battles were fought in Southern States, Northern States, Border and western territories.

And it was not about slavery, it was about preserving the Union on the Northern side, and state rights on the Southern side.

Eventually it resulted in the emancipation proclaiming.

Today, flying the Dixie Flag probably means you're racist, despite any excuses you may make.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Northwest
And it was not about slavery, it was about preserving the Union on the Northern side, and state rights on the Southern side.

Please read the Confederate Constitution = "The Confederate version used the word “slaves,” unlike the U.S. Constitution. One article banned any Confederate state from making slavery illegal. Another ensured that enslavers could travel between Confederate states with their slaves."

The North was not against slavery. It didn't want it to spread to the territories, which were to be reserved for Whites.
Northwest · M
@Diotrephes
Please read the Confederate Constitution

Yes, slavery is mentioned throughout the Confederate Constitution. But the states that seceded were not banned from owning slaves.

Not sure why this is relevant. The Dred Scott Decision (1857) guaranteed that people can be treated as property no matter where they are in the USA.

Nevertheless, the initial primary aim in 1861 was strictly to preserve the Union. The dynamic shifted as the war progressed, and the ultimate victory resulted in the total eradication of slavery.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Northwest
Nevertheless, the initial primary aim in 1861 was strictly to preserve the Union. The dynamic shifted as the war progressed, and the ultimate victory resulted in the total eradication of slavery.

ICYMI, slavery is still legal in America. More and more States have made it illegal but the federal government could sell people as slaves if it wanted to. Of course the people would probably kill anyone who bought them and moved them into their homes as servants. But companies don't have that problem as long as their slaves are kept in prisons.
Americans used war, others simply voted to end slavery!
It's all about war, glorious war, choosing war, taking war as the only way - it's about the way look at the past. Through denial.
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