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tenente · 36-40, M
20th century? pure body count? Mao Zedong 40-80 million
i think Hitler, Stalin and Lenin only account for 3-4 million
i think Hitler, Stalin and Lenin only account for 3-4 million

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Mao killed that many people?
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Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@SW-User If Rummel Rudolph was correct in 1994... then his numbers were:
China - 76,702,000 (1949–1987),
the Soviet Union - 61,911,000 (1917–1987),
Democratic Kampuchea - 2,035,000 (1975–1979)
Vietnam - 1,670,000 (1945–1987)
Poland - 1,585,000 (1945–1987)
North Korea - 1,563,000 (1948–1987)
Yugoslavia - 1,072,000 (1945–1987)
SOURCE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide
These are entire regimes though... not just one dictator. And these periodes also go over several diffrent authoritarians that were leading the regime during that periode.
China - 76,702,000 (1949–1987),
the Soviet Union - 61,911,000 (1917–1987),
Democratic Kampuchea - 2,035,000 (1975–1979)
Vietnam - 1,670,000 (1945–1987)
Poland - 1,585,000 (1945–1987)
North Korea - 1,563,000 (1948–1987)
Yugoslavia - 1,072,000 (1945–1987)
SOURCE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide
These are entire regimes though... not just one dictator. And these periodes also go over several diffrent authoritarians that were leading the regime during that periode.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@tenente I'm not disagreeing that Mao didn't kill a lot of people tenente... and his regime beats Stalin and Hitler... that's for sure.
I'm just really sure Hitler and Stalin both did a lot more then 3-4 million.
And then something that I adressed somewhere else... is that these are still regimes. We can blame it all on that leader figure, but I think that's just a bit too easy. It's a regime, many people joined in on the murder, and yes there was a leader, but there was also a mindset that people just agreed with because they believed they were doing the right thing.
If the Trump thing in the US ever dies out... people will point to him for all the crap that happened. Some people are already pretending that he's the sole source of all the negative stuff you see. But at the end of the day, there is an entire group of people that are pushing everything that is happening. The responsibility is way more difused when it comes to regimes and political movements.
Same happened to our guy (Leopold 2) who is often blamed for all the attrocities when the king was exploiting Congo as his own territory (not Belgians)... however, it was a mindset of thousands of colonists that created the attrocities over there. Just pointing to the king, gives a really simplistic view of what actually happened.
I'm just really sure Hitler and Stalin both did a lot more then 3-4 million.
And then something that I adressed somewhere else... is that these are still regimes. We can blame it all on that leader figure, but I think that's just a bit too easy. It's a regime, many people joined in on the murder, and yes there was a leader, but there was also a mindset that people just agreed with because they believed they were doing the right thing.
If the Trump thing in the US ever dies out... people will point to him for all the crap that happened. Some people are already pretending that he's the sole source of all the negative stuff you see. But at the end of the day, there is an entire group of people that are pushing everything that is happening. The responsibility is way more difused when it comes to regimes and political movements.
Same happened to our guy (Leopold 2) who is often blamed for all the attrocities when the king was exploiting Congo as his own territory (not Belgians)... however, it was a mindset of thousands of colonists that created the attrocities over there. Just pointing to the king, gives a really simplistic view of what actually happened.
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