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I support ❤️ 🇺🇦 Ukraine AND Russia 🇷🇺 ❤️

Does anyone actually understand Ukrainian and Russian history? Does anyone have the intellect to see it from Russia’s point of view? Just like the atomic bombing of Japan, The western world once again forces its agenda upon the east and expects it to obey. At least there’s some countries who make the stand for independence.

The whole Ukrainian war is a political whitewash of lies and self driven agendas. When has the west ever been given a detailed history of Ukraine? Where are the news features about Ukrainian history? Where is the education? The war is the result of western and eastern polarization. Guess what? That’s what happens when tolerances deteriorate and people stand up for their own selfish selves.

The world deserves this. It truly does and what has happened? Nothing but complete destruction. So well done, well done civilians for creating this situation, voting for Trump, voting for brexit, because there were some dumb idiots that hated something Ain Their lives and wanted to find someone or something to blame. This is what YOU have created.

War is the final frontier in this culture of intolerance. The final frontier of nazification, the suppression of voices but most of all the intolerance.

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LeopoldBloom · M

@NestChicken Another bullshit neo-Nazi conspiracy theory. Right wingers love Putin because he's a violent homophobic bigot. Sorry, Adolf, you're not going to be able to go back to beating gay men and trans women to death anymore.

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LeopoldBloom · M

@MrHonkHonk No, we only want to do that to Nazi fucks like you.

If you're so unhappy here, why don't you emigrate to Russia? Because you know you wouldn't last a day there.

helenS · 36-40, F

The Russian point of view is that no country at Russia's "periphery" has a right to choose its own partners as they wish; those decisions have to be made in Moscow, and if a country disagrees, it will be attacked.
As a result, Mariupol and Kyiv are flattened, and any protests in Kazakhstan are nipped in the bud.

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NestChicken · 31-35, M

@BlueVeins yes

BlueVeins · 22-25

@NestChicken Soooo do the treaties signed during the dissolution of the USSR just mean nothing then? I mean why make all these countries sovereign states if they're just supposed to go around killing each other?

LeopoldBloom · M

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Stop putting words in my mouth, I'm not justifying "American imperialism," although a lot of right wingers here in the U.S. are justifying Putin's war by claiming that Zelensky was "installed" by the U.S. Even though he sure didn't kowtow to the last American president.
Some American puppet he turned out to be. Speaking of bullshit conspiracy theories.

Just because people live in a country doesn't mean they have a right to independence, or that independence is even economically viable in many cases. I don't approve of most times when the U.S. interfered with foreign countries, and I don't approve of Putin's efforts in Donbas over the past 8 years either.

room101 · 51-55, M

It never ceases to amaze me how, people like you, begin a post by accusing others of a lack of intellect etc etc etc etc...................and then, go on to display such a fundamental lack of knowledge that one has to question if they ever learned how to tie their own shoelaces.

Here are some facts for you to try to understand.

Ukraine was never part of Russia. It was a member of the Soviet Union. Many would argue that even this "membership" was forced on Ukraine. As it was on a number of other nations.

Brexit has sod all to do with putin invading Ukraine.

Cultural intolerance etc etc etc has sod all to do with putin invading Ukraine.

"Western and Eastern polarisation" is a misnomer because what you're actually talking about is the division between Europe and Russia. This was a result of the Russian Revolution in 1917. The US jumped in immediately after WW2.

TheSirfurryanimalWales · 61-69, M

I think i know a lot about Ukrainian history and i cannot see the the Russian point of view at all.
They have invaded a country that was not a threat to anyone because of the warped mind of a leader right up there with Hitler and Stalin.
And now completely unjustified death and destruction is being reigned upon thatvcountry to boost his ego.
And SW has members in Ukraine...i am sure they can’t see the Russian point of view either.
As for Brexit-which i did vote for and was roundly condemned for by Yulianna😀-i don’t see what that has to do with Russias war on Ukraine.

ProfLiz · 41-45, F

In answer to your question, I have a very good understanding of Russian and Ukrainian history, I am not sure that you do.

BlueVeins · 22-25

If you really supported Russia, you would unequivocally condemn the Russian government for sending innocent Russian men off to die in an imperialist war. I understand why Russia is doing what it's doing, I just wish they wouldn't because it's fucking evil and unwarranted.

helenS · 36-40, F

Russia is simply not attractive. It is an appalling country. Millions of people try to immigrate to America – who would choose Russia instead?
(a) Russia is not attractive politically – open and free discussions regarding the future of the country are oppressed, protesters will land in forced labor camps, sometimes for many years until they die of exhaustion.
(b) Russia is not attractive economically – all they do is exporting natural resources to feed their armed forces and their parasitic upper class. Life expectancy for men in Russia: 66years, Germany: 79years.
(c) Russia is not attractive culturally: authoritarian leaders are suffocating contemporary culture wherever they can.
==> Russia has allies [u]only[/u] because it is has powerful armed forces.

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helenS · 36-40, F

@Darksideinthenight2 I have to admit I'm no expert. I just read some statements issued by the American Department of Defense.

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HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M

If Putin stops short, your nose will be buried so far up his ass when you sneeze he coughs

KiwiBird · 36-40, F

@helenS Not sure the general populace knew what they were doing in that vote. However it is done now. Should try and consolidate and re-establish trade with various Commonwealth Countries that existed prior to the EEC/EU

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NestChicken · 31-35, M

@KiwiBird it’s own death warrant of course

KiwiBird · 36-40, F

@NestChicken If it sold it....it no longer hangs over their head. Comprehension is not one of your fortés obviously.

NestChicken · 31-35, M

@KiwiBird it seems you have no understanding at all. Dear oh me, well I can call a doctor for you if you need help

MoonMoon · F

russia thinks geopolitical circumstances from the 19th century apply in the 21st century...
they dont... no county can be forced into a sphere of influence anymore

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PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

@MoonMoon It matters because this really started with the US coup in Kiev in 2014. Like I said, Washington will fight Russia to the last Ukrainian, and Georgian, etc.

MoonMoon · F

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow you are call a rather peaceful democratic overthrowing of a tyrannical regime an us coup... holy shit you are one of those delusional people. no point for further discussion you are to indoctrinated.. bye

NestChicken · 31-35, M

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow @MoonMoon the west has always oppressed the east. Look at Japan, a traditional country that has been ransacked by western values. Even weddings are western as there is a small bunch of Asians who actually hate their own country and culture. Russia and China for that matter know different, that we are their milk drinkers and we rely on them, that’s why they treat westerns like 2 year old tots. Just give them a candy and they’ll be happy.

Mackenzie1 · F

Yes, I understand it but I get the impression that you do not

HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M

FreestyleArt · 31-35, M

Putin is cleaning House. It may take a while how they're investigating certain areas the Ukraine Government been hiding while the Government itself is hiding in Poland then somewhere else. Zelensky is not in Ukraine anymore no matter how much the Mainstream Media making him a Hero fighting along in Ukraine.

There are studios with green screens can make that happen.

Mackenzie1 · F

@FreestyleArt oh dear, another half wit….

FreestyleArt · 31-35, M

@Mackenzie1 nothing but name calling. I'm sure it's normal from you and the rest anyways. Nothing new and Have a good day

JanBos2 · 56-60, M

And now we have already reached the next stage: the rape of Ukrainen women in the occupied areas. Russia repeats it WOII history.

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LeopoldBloom · M

@NestChicken It figured you’d be a MRA. What incels like you need is a good fuck. Why don’t you just hire a prostitute, I guarantee you’ll feel better afterwards and won’t hate women as much as you do now.

NestChicken · 31-35, M

@LeopoldBloom Mens rights, womens rights, gay rights, trans rights, they’re all rights. But some voices are mysteriously louder than others. What does that say about the western system? What about the alcoholics and drug addicts that can’t get help? The men who are rejected from society? The women who reject them because they want more? The same could be said for men, gay, trans, environmentalists. But would you put an alcoholic in charge of the country? There’s nothing wrong with having rights, but making a squabbling noise out of the tiniest of things.

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HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M

Frankly my dear I don't give a damn

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Viper · M

I can't tell if your a troll or crazy, either way your argument isn't consistent.

It's Ukraine that wants to get away from Russia... not the West, the West wants Russia's oil.