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MethDozer · M
It's not the actual ID most of us ba e a problem with. It's the timing and methods proposed. Want viter ID? Fine. The time to demand one isnt right before am election. There's a reason younonly hear about it immediately before an election. To demand one you need to implement somethjng that puts a free, easily obtained, and never expiring, and easily replaced ID card well before an election. Otherwise it's a ruse to disenfranchise the people.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@MethDozer no one has ever really shown any significant voter fraud in the US!
MethDozer · M
@samueltyler2 From my understanding a national ID has been propsed and tried several times in the past but it always met strong opposition on civil liberties and States rights grounds.🙄
I forget the exact case and details of it, bjt there was even a big to do when Social Security card were first introduced and attempts made of them having a photo on them as it then it becoming a form of national ID and legislators ans the public having a strong opposition to that possibilty. What I am getting at it is there is this weird long standing notion agaisnt ID on a national level where a a fully functioning and effective for both security and the individual voter ID could be possible without it denying citizens.
I forget the exact case and details of it, bjt there was even a big to do when Social Security card were first introduced and attempts made of them having a photo on them as it then it becoming a form of national ID and legislators ans the public having a strong opposition to that possibilty. What I am getting at it is there is this weird long standing notion agaisnt ID on a national level where a a fully functioning and effective for both security and the individual voter ID could be possible without it denying citizens.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@MethDozer Think of all the movies of europe during WWII, people would be stopped and asked for their papers. That is oe of the driving fears.
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