Conservative Logic

@sunsporter1649 Should an officer stop you, and ask for ID, what do you provide?

Do you carry a certified copy of your birth certificate?

@JSul3 Don't have to, I just show my drivers license, which is required to operate a motor vehicle on a public highway

@sunsporter1649 Ok so why are brown people forced to "show papers" when a DL is sufficient?

@JSul3 Vehicle resgistration and insurance, which are typically, though not always, paper, and are also required to operate a motor vehicle on public roads

@sunsporter1649 What if an ICE thug stops you and asks for proof of your citizenship?

@JSul3 I have proof, my drivers license, insurance, and registration, which will be run thru the computer in the officers vehicle for warrants and DHS holds

@sunsporter1649 That does not prove you are a US citizen.

You see where we're going here?
Ice thugs grabbing folks who may have a DL, but not a birth certificate or valid passport getting detained and disappeared.

@sunsporter1649 He evidently had a valid DL.

There's plenty of folks in the US who don't speak English well.
So what?

One more time:
If an ICE thug stops you and asks for proof of US citizenship, what document do you provide?

@JSul3 I have proof, my drivers license, insurance, and registration, which will be run thru the computer in the officers vehicle for warrants and DHS holds

@sunsporter1649 One more time Sport.
A valid DL is not proof of US citizenship.

A certified copy of your birth certificate or a valid passport is.

I know ...you're a privileged white male and no ICE thug or cop would ever question your citizenship, right?

@JSul3 One more time dude, if you are a dude, I have proof, my drivers license, insurance, and registration, which will be run thru the computer in the officers vehicle for warrants and DHS holds

@sunsporter1649 That is NOT proof of US citizenship.

is a valid driver's license proof of US citizenship?

A valid driver's license is not generally considered direct proof of U.S. citizenship. While REAL IDs confirm lawful status/presence, they do not distinguish between citizens and legal permanent residents. Only specifically marked "Enhanced Driver's Licenses" (issued in a few states) prove citizenship.
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Key Details:

Proof of Identity: A standard driver's license serves primarily as proof of identity and age, not citizenship.

Legal Presence vs. Citizenship: Many non-citizens (e.g., green card holders, visa holders) can obtain valid licenses.

Exceptions: Enhanced Driver's Licenses (EDL) from select states (e.g., MI, MN, NY, VT, WA) are acceptable for proving citizenship for land/sea border crossings.

Standard Documents: For citizenship proof (e.g., I-9 employment verification, passport application), you generally need a birth certificate, U.S. passport, or Certificate of Naturalization.

Note: Some states also allow unauthorized immigrants to obtain driver's licenses, making them explicitly not proof of legal status in those cases.