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Violence solved nothing

No matter the party affiliation you don't end causes by violence you make martyrs.
If the shooter believed the rhetoric of the person that just died was harmful by killing him you just fueled it and made a martyr to that cause.

And honestly, I don't want to debate this and makes me very sad that some people are okay that someone got gunned down in a public place while practicing free speech.

I will go on record that I did not like Charlie Kirk rhetoric many times,but rejoicing over someone who died will never be okay by me and it doesn't matter who it is or what political rhetoric they espoused.
If this means I lose friends or I get blocked so be it.

And no I am not a Trump supporter being happy about George Floyd or anybody else that was more to the left who died and I do have compassion for the child victims of the latest school shootings, to assume someone would just be okay with those other deaths, because they're not rejoicing that Charlie Kirk got killed shows something wrong with the thinking that has envaded the country.

Us against them.
Cult of personalities/party devoid of compassion or the ability to think independently.

Like, I said violence is never the answer and you don't stop a cause you make martyrs when you resort to it.

We have become a nation that wants to eradicate different ideas by canceling or destroying the person who has them- I am sorry, I think that is irrational and dangerous.
It's not justice- it's cowardice whether they be liberal, moderate, independent, or conservative it is not okay to shut down anyone's voice by violence.
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boudinMan · 61-69, M
you're absolutely right... very well said.

i am a trump supporter and enjoyed watching charlie's videos, but i would never wish what happened to him on anyone else, regardless of their political views. some of the people here, who try to be clever by saying they condemn his killing on one hand, but then go on to basically say he had it coming to him are vile human beings. i'm not even sure they qualify as humans.
Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
@boudinMan it makes me sick to my stomach that they have to at this time make sure everybody knows that they're not sad he's dead... I'm sorry but that is the same as saying they are glad he is dead with no pity for how he died for no pity and how the people he left behind may feel or The spectators who had to witness a murder.
They are mad about political rhetoric to the point that it doesn't matter if somebody's life is taken or not and this is wrong in any scenario.
He wasn't caught in a crime ,he wasn't trying to kill anyone... He had an opinion that he would talk to other people about and he was shot down and killed in front of spectators for that opinion.
If the people cannot find it in their heart to condemn that and leave their prejudices behind, there is something wrong with the way they are thinking.
Their hate is blinding them and they are making themselves very repulsive in the eyes of anybody that has decency.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
Thank you for your words.
Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
@SumKindaMunster
I honestly cannot even imagine thinking any other way.
To automatically shut down my brain because of party affiliation seems very foolish.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Justmeraeagain You are a good person who was raised properly with the proper morals. You aren't crazy.

Remember that social media is a fun house mirror we hold up to our faces. It's distorted, and exaggerated.

It doesn't mean the calls for violence or reveling in a father and husband's murder is ok, but remember social media is over the top, and people say things for attention that they don't really mean and have no intention of following through on.
Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
@SumKindaMunster
We never know if people mean what they say or not- there's been plenty of people who have been dismissed as not really meaning what they said and then tragedy ensues.
Yes ,I know there are some who will never pull a trigger, but what sad pathetic people who revel in someone's death.
oldguy73 · 70-79, M
very well said, you are a smart person,
Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
@oldguy73
I'm a person who refuses to shut down my brain for political affiliatios.
chuck7882 · 61-69, M
So well put.
Sidewinder · 36-40, M
"Violence solved nothing," eh?!

If violence never solved anything, then why do we still have wars?

That's a conundrum worth pondering, right there.
Sidewinder · 36-40, M
@Justmeraeagain I was referring to violence in general as opposed to any specific form of violence.

It doesn't matter if it's punching, kicking, stabbing, shooting, or blowing stuff up, violence is still violence.
Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
@Sidewinder I did not make this post to debate war or "violence in general"
Someone, has been shot down in Cold blood for practicing free speech that some people didn't like- I find that odious- I find that evil- I don't think it will solve anything they will just make a martyr of him.
Sidewinder · 36-40, M
@Justmeraeagain First of all, I wasn't looking to start a debate, I was merely asking a philosopichal question.

And secondly, I agree with you on the fact that cold-blooded murder for any reason, whether justified or not is an awful thing.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
The whole point is that politics is supposed to be disagreement conducted through peaceful means. As soon as the debate is ended with a gunshot, everyone has failed catastrophically.
Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
@SunshineGirl yes, I agree with this 100%.
what makes me really concerned is that if you don't agree or act somewhat happy or relieved that this man died that some assume you're automatically okay with anybody on the other side that has been a victim of violence.
To me that is very irrational.
Musicman · 61-69, M
Very well said.

 
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