The USA has interests in every single part of the world, so it's also pointing nukes and guns at everything and everyone - that's "defensive".

@LordShadowfire been around decades - asked nicely before - only see and only expected endless war - you got what I expected. Nothing more, just hateful Americans out human end, for sure!

@Roundandroundwego So what I'm hearing you say is that you now choose to assume anybody and everybody will have a specific agenda in mind and insult you for not blindly following it, and you are not actually asking people to help you understand.

Let me ask you this. If you were in a situation where you recognized certain people near you as being known troublemakers who like to play with guns and take other people's stuff, and said troublemakers were boasting about how they all brought their guns, assuming you couldn't simply walk away, what would you do? Would you let it be known that you have a weapon of your own, and won't take any aggression lying down? Or would you sit there with your head down and your eyes shut and hope the troublemakers don't think you're worth it? And then one of the troublemakers starts messing with your friends. Assuming you have friends. What would you do then? Still nothing? Mind your own business while they get their stuff taken and possibly shot?

That's the dilemma the US finds itself in. We have friends, allies, around the world, and sometimes they get bullied by the known troublemakers who have shown time and again that they are not afraid to aggressively attack or invade their neighbors.

Russia. North Korea.

So what should the US do? Keep its head down, mind its own business, not help its friends?

@LordShadowfire still no way for peace? Obviously you can't find any leadership in that direction because WESTERN is dangerous for the ADVANTAGES it brings.
Only you are expanding!

@Roundandroundwego You didn't answer the question.

@LordShadowfire the answer is obvious, it's everyone's responsibility to make peace, no matter what excuses you will raise for more hostility. Why deny that, and why pretend you don't have a huge violence problem?

@Roundandroundwego You still didn't answer the question.

@LordShadowfire the answer was that it's everyone's responsibility to make peace so you don't continue the hostilities. Obviously that's not something that Western minds like to admit as a possibility so you still don't want to admit I responded with the obvious, that you stopped the violence. That's the problem - the west, Murka, no stopping no knowledge of stopping no peaceful ideas, just war.

@Roundandroundwego That's not an answer. I asked what you personally would do in a situation where your friends were obviously under threat by someone with a gun who has demonstrated in the past that they are willing to hurt people to get what they want. You did not tell me what you would do.

@LordShadowfire personally I'm also not going to justify violence. But I'm sure you will make everyone think like you - isn't that the point of US tech and media? War war war? Only war?

@Roundandroundwego So you're saying you would sit there with your head down and your eyes shut and hope nobody gets hurt. That's what you would do. Correct?

@LordShadowfire nope. I'm saying that violence isn't defensive and people should not plan to use it and that's why the USA is a criminal nation. The population has to avoid politics and philosophy to remain dangerous - which it is.
You would only talk to keep violence normal.

@Roundandroundwego So you wouldn't sit there with your head down, eyes shut, and do nothing while your friends are being threatened? Or you would? I'm confused. Would you try to talk to the guy with the gun until he gets annoyed and walks away?

@LordShadowfire you don't get to limit the choices to failure and violence, but the USA is in a position to impose that globally, it's actually trying!

@Roundandroundwego I proposed a hypothetical scenario in which a person with a gun is threatening your friends, and you yourself have a weapon for the purpose of self-defense, and you have refused to state that you would stand up for your friends. You have also refused to state that you wouldn't stand up for your friends. And now you are trying to distract from your complete failure to answer the question by claiming that I'm the one forcing the choice. I'm not the guy with the gun. The guy with the gun is over there stealing your friend's wallet while you lecture me about peace.

@LordShadowfire sorry, I propose that hypothetical is no excuse for violence. You folks prefer to plan to use violence and tend to see no other means to defend yourselves - especially avoiding good relationships with others that build peace. You have weapons aimed at everyone.
Other people have other plans, we plan on not using violence. Why have no other options? Why be heavily armed at all?

@LordShadowfire the choices aren't DOING NOTHING vs being a victim. You prefer to avoid all the cooperative and non violent options, as a mainstream Westerner, the rest of us people don't. You require the explanation. You have a violence problem.

@Roundandroundwego You literally refused to take action. This person was walking around waving a gun in the faces of your friends, and you could have stopped him, but you refused to make a decision of what to do. You refused to stand up to the person with a gun, and now your friend is dead. What are you going to do now? Cooperate? Pass him a joint? Sing Kumbaya? Anything but actually disarming him, right? Because stopping aggressive action is an evil awful act of war.