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MSNBC : Not giving Durham credit ???

MSNNBC dismissing the evidence in Durham's Report????
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Carla · 61-69, F
What evidence? You people have nothing so you grab hold of more nothing.
I hope that is working well for you. We all know how much you enjoy being pissed off.
SW-User
@Carla Well said :)
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Carla That's the point Carla, there was no evidence of collusion. And the FBI choose to believe there was, and did not maintain their imparitality in investigating "crossfire hurricane"
Carla · 61-69, F
@SumKindaMunster but they certainly found acceptance.
Collusion is not a crime, btw.
And they found other crimes...in two years.
What crimes did durham uncover, in four years?
Ive waited through several "two weeks" no one is yet locked up by durham. What gives?
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Carla Then you haven't reviewed the Durham report and what it was about. It wasn't about "evidence", it was about[i] lack[/i] of evidence.

The FBI was investigating something that wasn't true, yet the entire culture was led to believe it was.

Why do you think nothing came of Meuller's report?
Carla · 61-69, F
@SumKindaMunster because barr intercepted and quashed it.
Stealing the narrative.
With a republican stronghold, of course nothing came of it.
And still with the lack of evidence, people were indicted, pleaded guilty or were successfully procecuted.
What came of durhams investigation? The fbi shouldn't have gone in. But he thinks nothing should change procedurally in the dept.
Yeah...big stuff.
SW-User
@SumKindaMunster [quote]
Why do you think nothing came of Meuller's report?
[/quote] Surely you would be curious to read the unredacted report... Perhaps you have an idea as to why it was redacted, and why it was Barr who made sure it was?
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Carla Right Bill Barr and Rudy Guliaini ran interference against the entire LEO system of the US government and let Trump get away with colluding with the Russians.

It's always interesting to me how Trump and his minions are buffons who can't do anything, until it suites your narrative.

Then Trump is a master spy wriggling out of the entire US governments grasp.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@SW-User I ask you. Where are the indictments? Manafort was pinched for lobbying violations, Flynn for lying to the FBI.

And that was it.
SW-User
@SumKindaMunster Bill Barr and Rudy Giuliani... two fine, level-headed individuals who have not completely lost the plot over Trump on multiple occasions...
This ring a bell?
SW-User
@SumKindaMunster Way to duck my question with a question.
Carla · 61-69, F
@SumKindaMunster trump and his minions did their shit right out in the open, for all to see.
Nothing masterful, just accepted.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Carla ...and again I ask, where is the evidence of Russian collusion? It should have been easy to find no?
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@SW-User Settle down, I'm getting to your question.

[quote]Surely you would be curious to read the unredacted report... Perhaps you have an idea as to why it was redacted, and why it was Barr who made sure it was[/quote]

The answer is we don't know. It would seem you have chosen to believe this is where the collusion actually occurred, but again, then why have the Feds moved on?

If Trump truly was a Russian plant, why are they pursuing ALLLL these other charges against him?

You really believe Bill Barr and Rudy Guliani successfully covered this up?
SW-User
@SumKindaMunster [quote]You really believe Bill Barr and Rudy Guliani successfully covered this up?
[/quote] I don't know what to believe. But I would really like to know what was in the redacted report.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@SW-User [quote] I don't know what to believe[/quote]

I'm sorry to hear that. I sometimes believe this is all intentional.

Do you know what "learned helplessness" means?

[quote]https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/learned-helplessness[/quote]
SW-User
@SumKindaMunster When I say I don't know what to believe, I mean it in the context of the redacted report.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@SW-User Fair enough. And the fact that we are 3 years and counting that Trump and Barr have been out of power doesn't make you wonder why nothing came of it? Even if Barr did run interference on this, and I don't believe that, they are both long out of power so if there is something there, it should have been picked up by now.

Did you read about the Durham report on media that dug into it? Or just the MSM who dismissed it?
SW-User
@SumKindaMunster I read about it on politico. Is that too MSM for you?
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@SW-User I went there and found this. It's not bad, and seems to mention some of the things that the FBI did wrong during the investigation and the consequences of that. It also mentions how this will be used as leverage to modify Section 702 which is news to me, so thanks for sharing it.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/17/durham-report-house-gop-fbi-surveillance-00097437

Here's one I read on Substack that tends to focus on the propaganda of the Russian collusion narrative and how the Durham report adds further info that this was always bullshit.

https://substack.com/inbox/post/122338970
boudinMan · 61-69, M
@Carla bill barr stated on fox news a couple of nights ago that the investigation was not looking for criminal conduct. now you know. please, pickup your consolation prize on the way out.
DavidT8899 · 22-25, M
@SumKindaMunster And it was later determined that Flynn didn't lie and was sent up by James Comey.