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Is it really Democracy Trump is threatening or is it civil society?

To ensure that our democracy survives and that violence is not regarded as an alternative to victory at the ballot box, Trump’s conduct must have consequences. Refusing to prosecute Trump and his inner circle would only encourage irreverence to democracy. What a monumental failure of leadership that would be.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/06/22/jan-6-merrick-garland-prosecution-donald-trump/

I get the appeal of trying to paint Trumpism as fascism or Autocracy, etc, but really, once you start encouraging citizens to attack other citizens, even if they are public servants, it seems like you're going way past democracy.

Even Monarchies and chieftainships had laws and mechanisms for state sponsored dispute resolution to keep people from killing each other.

I'm thinking some pre-historic hunt leader, probably told hot blooded warrior/hunters first told folks to not kill each other and submit to some sort of third party judgment, if only to make sure there were enough hunters left to feed the tribe.

Vigilantism and lawlessness isn't just undemocratic. It's uncivilized, imo.

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sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

"I want to tell you, Gorsuch; I want to tell you, Kavanaugh: You have released the whirlwind, and you will pay the price. You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions."

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MistyCee

@sunsporter1649 Did I ever say he's the only one doing it?

I think us vs them partisanship and selfishness and tribalism even, are part of human nature.

But, not, imo, the best part, and while I love animals, this kind of crap is not even what successful social animals put up with get away with for long.

BohemianBabe · M

@sunsporter1649 Whataboutism.

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

@BohemianBabe "Michigan Democrat State Representative Cynthia Johnson gave a warning to Trump supporters on Tuesday.
"So this is just a warning to you Trumpers. Be careful, walk lightly, we ain't playing with you. Enough of the shenanigans. Enough is enough. And for those of you who are soldiers, you know how to do it. Do it right, be in order, make them pay."

MistyCee

@sunsporter1649 Why keep going with this shit?

Are you really that amoral, or blind to the fact that it's counterproductive to humanity in the long run?

Or, perhaps, do you not give a shit about humanity as compared to playing keyboard warrior on SW?

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

@MistyCee You started it....

monte3 · 70-79, M

@sunsporter1649 do you condemn Trump’s followers following the logical course of his accusations and harassing the Georgia election workers? Because I DO condemn what the MI state legislature implied, assuming that is accurate. And the threats against the Justices.

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

@monte3 LOL, you mean the followers of President Trump exercising their Constitutional Right to object to the procedures illegally enacted by the georgia elections board?

monte3 · 70-79, M

@sunsporter1649 first off the election in GA was legal and verified and trump lost.
But I was referring to the two women targeted by name by Giuliani and others and who had mobs in front of their house. Or the AZ guy Rusty Bowers, who was targeted for following the constitution.
Watch the Jan 6 committee you will learn something.

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monte3 · 70-79, M

@MistyCee why is this marked “sensitive”?

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

@monte3 LOL, got your suitcases full of ballots handy, your gonna need 'em.

And when I want to watch comedy I will turn on the Cartoon Channel

monte3 · 70-79, M

@sunsporter1649 so you are still holding on the completely disproven nonsense? Why would we be surprised?
But on point here you will NOT condemn the attacks and harassment that I mentioned? Is that correct?

MistyCee

@monte3 Hell if I know. I get the idea that insulting mentally or morally less capable folks is insensitive, but aside from the insult stuff, I think there's a legitmate public interest in calling fools fools and evil leaning folks evil leaning.

monte3 · 70-79, M

🤣. That comment didn’t even seem insulting actually. Hell I mock and ridicule sunspot all the time and that never shows up. 🤷‍♂️@MistyCee

monte3 · 70-79, M

@monte3 still waiting for you to condemn the trumpists attacks on election workers doing t(sir jobs….

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

@monte3 What's good for the goose is good for the gander

monte3 · 70-79, M

@sunsporter1649 ?? Huh? Do you condemn the threats and harassment of election workers just doing their jobs? It is not hard or subtle….

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

@monte3 LOL, and you believe anything from the latest comedy show put on by the demonocrats! C'mon, your smarter than that

BohemianBabe · M

@sunsporter1649 C'mon! The only trustworthy source is Trump himself!

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

@BohemianBabe LOL, can't wait for the cross-examination of the "witnesses", how about you?

monte3 · 70-79, M

@sunsporter1649 do you support the harassment of election officials doing their job? And yeah it happened even if you don’t want to believe it, and saying “bullschiff” will not magically change it.

BohemianBabe · M

@sunsporter1649 Does it matter? You'll only believe what Trump says, anyway. Fascists are very beta like that.

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

@monte3 You are gonna need a bigger one of these to shovel that bullschiff.

monte3 · 70-79, M

@sunsporter1649 🙄🙄. Your new favorite meaningless mem?
Do you think harassment and violence against election workers was justified? Do you think the attack on the capital was justified? And to save time I am limiting it to those that entered the capital.

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

@monte3 Just think, if nancy had accepted the offer of 20,000 National Guard troops on that day nothing would have happened

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