People hate and show animosity to one another online more than they do in real life. When people are face to face with each other, the rules of engagement seem to soften. The internet and social media are what's actually giving the illusion of mass bitterness. That is exactly what the politicians corporations, banks, insurance, and religious leaders want by cococting conspiracy theories and fake culture wars. The people aren't the problem. I wish more people understood that.
@TrashCat Yes, exactly. This is where you go rather than a bar or a titty club or to the casino. To be able to express yourself candidly. I don't know people on the internet and I love that I can engage and then drop the issue completely. Its the lesser of all vanities.
Over half the cultural warfare, mistrust, and hostility are manufactured by partisan hacks on both sides who benefit politically and financially by dividing and disinforming the public. The whole corrupt strategy is to allow candidates to chose voters, instead of the other way round. The media spreads and amplifies the effect and cashes in on the confusion, by capturing audiences looking to vent their outrage.
So honest officials actually working in the public interest are marginalized, and objective reporting on real facts gets ignored. Remember this story ?? Of course not ...
ByDavid Klepper
Published 3:00 AM PST, June 14, 2023
WASHINGTON (AP) — Americans on the right and the left have a lot more in common than they might think — including their strong distrust of each other.
[b]A survey published on Wednesday finds that when asked about core values including fairness, compassion and personal responsibility, about nine in 10 Democrats and Republicans agreed they were very or extremely important. Yet only about a third of either group said they believed the same was true for the opposing party.[/b]
The results of the poll, conducted by NORC at the University of Chicago and the nonprofit group Starts With Us, reveal a stark truth at the source of the polarization that has a powerful grip on American politics: While most Americans agree on the core principles underlying American democracy, they no longer recognize that the other side also holds those values.
[u]“This is a hidden opportunity for Americans to reestablish a sense of shared values,” said Tom Fishman, chief executive at Starts With Us, a nonpartisan organization that works to bridge political polarization. "Americans from both parties need to understand that they still share common values," he said, "and to recognize their misconceptions about the opposing party."[/u]
If you really think about it though, Americans never really had anything close to total solidarity (WW2 was probably the closest time in our history)
We're more defined by sub region (northeast, south, midwest, west) than a country in totality; and the same holds true for any country for the most part.
When foreigners thinks of America, many focus on the northeasterners that are overrun with crime and governed by charlatans that live like they're still in the Victorian era, and quite frankly, give the rest of us a bad name...
Southerners probably possess the most versatile easy going culture of anyone; we'd have more common ground & get along better with similarly employed people (farmers, craftsmen, tradesmen, etc.) from anywhere else in the world than we'd do so with other Americans from different regions.
On the other hand, if you were to throw the western/pacific free spirited hippies, queers, socialist wannabees, etc. in a room together with their foreign counterparts, they'd probably all kill each other (queers for palestine... lol, I'd buy tickets to watch that union...)
The people that demand tolerance the most usually have the least.
Back in the day we stayed away from people we couldn't agree with. We didn't demand everybody else stay away from them too and cancel them.
We also didn't bow down to the cult of personality like it seems people do today,at least until they get sick of them and cancel them,too.
Bad apples usually fell off the tree naturally; now everybody thinks they have to pull down the healthy branches ,burn the tree down, and uproot the stump,along with the apples.
No, life experiences. And I do understand that they may differ from yours. This is why your perspective is that things were better in the past, which is my point. Some things were better, but generally not for everyone, and some things were worse in ways that went beyond just hurt feelings and having the luxury of ignoring them or walking away.
[quote] Ironic that the treatment can be reversed and counted as progressive[/quote]
Well, as I also said: [quote] for some, when you’re used to privilege you see equality for all as your oppression[/quote]
One reason we’re so divided is that there are different realities for different groups of people. Many of the privileged don’t believe there is.
@turnedtostone There’s definitely privilege, and people are treated differently even now. Many who have accomplished much and are well known still experience the day to day "misunderstandings" that others take for granted. It’s not something I imagine will ever change.
[big]You should have disagreements with your leaders and your colleagues, but if it becomes immediately a question of questioning people's motives, and if immediately you decide that somebody who sees a whole new situation differently than you must be a bad person and somehow twisted inside, we are not going to get very far in forming a more perfect union. BILL CLINTON[/big]
Back to the undulations of mankind. What goes up must come down. We’re now those people in the history books who lived through scary times and we can only hope we live to see better days as well. It’s hard to be this scared, and I live in a place that’s still relatively peaceful. 💔
@JustNik When we were kids on the playground we'd push each other down. Now, if the restraints of conventional, commercial warfare exceed in number and threat, we will eliminate humanity.
Those who hate America are not Americans. They are indoctrinated communists who enjoy the freedom and benefits (which they take advantage of to further their Marxist goals) of America.
Seems like the world is filled with so much darkness that it wants us all to give up … never stop believing in the greater good of mankind, what we do in life echoes in eternity’💕
