Has Peter Gabriel ended up better than Genesis?

I don't like to judge,but it seems to me like singer/songwriter Peter Gabriel has ended up outdoing his former bandmates in Genesis.While that band had a final reunion tour that had absolutely no new album for songs,and where lead singer Phil Collins had to preform sitting in a wheelchair, Gabriel is coming out with a brand new album of original material that's already being called excellent.Also,his current tour as been given rave reviews and Gabriel is reported to be incredibly engaged and energetic for a man his age.It seems to me that he has outlasted his former collaborators!Your thoughts?

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LeopoldBloom · M

Ibrahim Ferrer and Compay Segundo were still performing well into their 80s. Elliott Carter released a symphony when he was 100. But Beethoven died at 57 and Schubert at 28. So there's no hard and fast rule. Considering how the Rolling Stones have behaved, it's amazing they're still alive. It makes you wonder if the sex and drugs reputation was an act and they didn't actually do anything.

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LeopoldBloom · M

@DavidT8899 Around 70% of Americans agree with you, that they're both too old. But both of them are leading their closest rivals by 30-40%. So people want younger candidates but are supporting those two anyway.

DavidT8899 · 22-25, M

@LeopoldBloom True enough.It doesn't make sense,but in a perverse sort of way,it actually does,if you get my meaning.

LeopoldBloom · M

@DavidT8899 Neither of them have any real competition. Biden certainly doesn't, but as the incumbent, he wouldn't face any serious challenger. Trump didn't in 2020. And Trump doesn't have any real competition either. If you saw the debate, none of those guys could fill in if Trump dropped out tomorrow. If that happened, Kemp, Youngkin, and Sununu would jump in. Those guys are waiting until 2028 when neither Trump nor Biden will be around.

Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M

Everybody's on their own journey.

Consider The Rolling Stones.
Bill Wyman quit what ? Twenty years ago?
Charlie Watts died two years ago and yet the remaining members (at the ripe old age of seventy something) are about to release a new album and probably tour.

I guess it comes down to interest and desire.
Like much of life as you get older

DavidT8899 · 22-25, M

@Picklebobble2 Not trying to dump on Genesis;I happen to respect them.But a facts a fact:after We Can't Dance in 1991(which was a rather mediocre album),they never recorded any new music.

Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M

@DavidT8899 maybe that's all they had.
So they did it and went on to other things away from public life'.

DavidT8899 · 22-25, M

@Picklebobble2 And there's nothing wrong with that per se; however,when compared to how Gabriels career turned out ,they are lacking.

TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP

yes

uncalled4 · 56-60, M

Music isn't a sporting event.

PG takes 20 years between albums, kinda like Tears For Fears.

PC left Genesis in the 90s and subsequently they released Calling All Stations, which I've listened to and it's...not very good.

I think that PG left Genesis at the perfect time, in '74 or so.

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DavidT8899 · 22-25, M

@uncalled4 True,but you needed Collins in the min to really make it Genesis.

uncalled4 · 56-60, M

@DavidT8899 He put them over the top, for sure.

DavidT8899 · 22-25, M

@uncalled4 Well,they all put each other over the top,if you know what I mean.Look at their songwriting credits.While some songs were written by individual members,the majority of them were written by all three.When you have that type of arrangement ,it depends on having ALL of them.If Tony Banks or Mike Rutherford would have quit,it would have effected the group as much as Collins quitting,at least in terms of the songwriting output.

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