What's a movie that can't be truly remade?
Personally, I think that David Lean's Great expectations (1946) is just that. What's yours in this regard?
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MrSmartyPants · 46-50, M
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Likestoenjoylife · 51-55, M
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rinkydinkydoink · M
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@val70
Maybe if you did an internet search - Could Freaks (1932) be made in this day and age? - you'd change your mind.
But you won't because you have a point to make.
EDIT: I'm half way through this rebuttal and I have to agree the host makes some valid points... but I need to point out the guy with the stutter and Phroso the Clown were "standard actors" Roscoe Ates and Wallace Ford.
All in all, my perspective has shaded to wanting to see - and actually seeing - these people as individuals who deserve to be seen as fully human who can laugh, cry and love just like anyone else.
EDIT #2: The part towards the end of the video on Eugenics is a MUST WATCH.
EDIT #3: From "Horror Film History" - - - The movie invites us to see the carny sideshow world as normal, where people hang laundry out to dry and roll cigarettes and get engaged and have babies just like anywhere else. Director Tod Browning takes us right through the looking glass and out the other side, makes the ‘normals’ into freakish monsters, tweaks our perceptions and makes us look at our own world with new eyes.
Maybe if you did an internet search - Could Freaks (1932) be made in this day and age? - you'd change your mind.
But you won't because you have a point to make.
EDIT: I'm half way through this rebuttal and I have to agree the host makes some valid points... but I need to point out the guy with the stutter and Phroso the Clown were "standard actors" Roscoe Ates and Wallace Ford.
All in all, my perspective has shaded to wanting to see - and actually seeing - these people as individuals who deserve to be seen as fully human who can laugh, cry and love just like anyone else.
EDIT #2: The part towards the end of the video on Eugenics is a MUST WATCH.
EDIT #3: From "Horror Film History" - - - The movie invites us to see the carny sideshow world as normal, where people hang laundry out to dry and roll cigarettes and get engaged and have babies just like anywhere else. Director Tod Browning takes us right through the looking glass and out the other side, makes the ‘normals’ into freakish monsters, tweaks our perceptions and makes us look at our own world with new eyes.
1490wayb · 61-69, M
deliverance, thunder road, any betty davis movie
SnickersDOM · M
Well I used to hear that you would never be able to remake the 1966 film Grand Prix due to things like how much F1 cars cost now, racing teams wouldn't let you embed film crews, etc. And yet years after I heard sentiments like those, which in hindsight are just mythologizing and over-romanticizing, you have had recent films like Michael Mann's Ferrari (2023), which aside from casting Americans in the roles of real life Italian characters 🙄 + and small bit of liberties with historical accuracy, is a brilliant film, particularly due to the cinematography and landscape, which included real public roads actually used during the infamous 1957 running of the Mille Miglia endurance race. While the film depicts classic sportscar prototype racing instead of F1, it is still a meaningful gauge of the accuracy of the myth about Grand Prix. The film production for example largely used bespoke replicas rather than priceless 1950s racing cars which would fetch millions at auction now.
I honestly think pretty much any film can (and probably will) be remade. Even a 1940s American "Transatlantic" accent can be affected by modern actors even though in real life it went out of vogue long ago.
With CGI you could even remake To Catch a Thief in the south of France and present the illusion of a less built-up Monaco or Provence landscape, as it looked in the 1950s (and perhaps do the same with Vertigo while really filming in San Francisco, not Canada).
I also don't understand the refrain that I've heard many times over the years that "you can't make a film like Blazing Saddles anymore!" Why? Because of the dialogue? Who could honestly say that they've seen controversy end the careers of either Ricky Gervais or Dave Chapelle today? FFS the US is the country who allowed the worst imaginable person to become POTUS twice, a remake of Blazing Saddles won't move any needles at all. I mean look at who owns exTwitter now, Musk is absolute trash but apparently nothing will derail him.
I honestly think pretty much any film can (and probably will) be remade. Even a 1940s American "Transatlantic" accent can be affected by modern actors even though in real life it went out of vogue long ago.
With CGI you could even remake To Catch a Thief in the south of France and present the illusion of a less built-up Monaco or Provence landscape, as it looked in the 1950s (and perhaps do the same with Vertigo while really filming in San Francisco, not Canada).
I also don't understand the refrain that I've heard many times over the years that "you can't make a film like Blazing Saddles anymore!" Why? Because of the dialogue? Who could honestly say that they've seen controversy end the careers of either Ricky Gervais or Dave Chapelle today? FFS the US is the country who allowed the worst imaginable person to become POTUS twice, a remake of Blazing Saddles won't move any needles at all. I mean look at who owns exTwitter now, Musk is absolute trash but apparently nothing will derail him.
SnickersDOM · M
@val70 it is, though the dive is getting murkier with the oppressive omnipotence of AI slop and "shorts" now infesting the plafform, along with the continuing ridiculousness of copyrighted content owners not allowing given content to be shown in specific regions or getting channels terminated if you even upload just 2 minutes of a Netflix series, so when I made a 17 minute montage of the Mille Miglia scenes in Ferrari, I made a sacrificial Vimeo account to upload that instead lol
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val70 · 56-60
@SnickersDOM I know what you mean. The docus on history are really getting hit. Thanks for the clip. Need to see it myself now. Terrific sequence on how the guy was so passionated. Not many people are like that these days. Nor have the heroic self-sacrifice.
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SnickersDOM · M
@val70 it's somewhat funny you'd mention Lauda, as I just recently learned something about him that I never knew, that had founded a couple of small airlines. I only learned of this because of the recent Amazon cargo jet crash in Miami. Before it became clear just how badly the crew erred, by missing multiple cues that they needed to go around, I was wondering if thrust reversers could be engaged manually or if the weight of the plane had to be fully on the main gear before the system would automatically engage them. Thus I learned that it's an intentional design that they can only be engaged once the weight of the landing plane is detected to be on the wheels, due to a fatal crash of a Lauda Air jet (another 767, no less) in 1991, where one thrust reverser suddenly deployed mid-flight.
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Watching your clip of his 1976 crash, it's unfortunate that just before that race many of the drivers including Lauda had voted to cancel the race due to safety concerns, and F1 stopped racing there after his crash. While it didn't directly cause F1 to stop racing there, cresting a few of the hills on the course would cause drivers to briefly get airborne on the Nordschleife layout of the Nürburgring, and that didn't help the course's safety reputation. You can even see this in the clip you posted, at 2:59, that is so wild! (A couple of years after Lauda's crash F1 cars in general gained better ground effect designs generating enough downforce to keep them more firmly attached to the track.)
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Watching your clip of his 1976 crash, it's unfortunate that just before that race many of the drivers including Lauda had voted to cancel the race due to safety concerns, and F1 stopped racing there after his crash. While it didn't directly cause F1 to stop racing there, cresting a few of the hills on the course would cause drivers to briefly get airborne on the Nordschleife layout of the Nürburgring, and that didn't help the course's safety reputation. You can even see this in the clip you posted, at 2:59, that is so wild! (A couple of years after Lauda's crash F1 cars in general gained better ground effect designs generating enough downforce to keep them more firmly attached to the track.)
WanderingHelplessly · 51-55, M
