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@Horsefrost says
War is certainly getting close to an end. People around the world could not call Putin to sit with them and discuss Ukraine. He did on his own.

tRump did more than just ask Putin to visit him in Alaska. 5 days ago tRump said there would be "severe consequences" if Putin didn't make a deal to stop the war.

Where are these consequences, @Horsefrost?? They don't exist. tRump drew a line in the sand and Putin crossed the line. And now tRump impotently pretends that everything is hunky dory. SAD!!
@Horsefrost says
You all have become social media experts.
Actually, the study of logical fallacies and evasions in debate date back to Aristotle, who enumerated 13 fallacies. In modern terms, your fallacy might be called Ignorance of Refutation: failing to properly address the argument being presented and instead addressing something else.

I'll give you another chance though. As I said, tRump did more than just ask Putin to visit him in Alaska. 5 days ago tRump said there would be "severe consequences" if Putin didn't make a deal to stop the war.

Where are these consequences, @Horsefrost?? There are none. I see the lack of promised consequences as major display of impotence by tRump, and you aren't even attempting to argue otherwise.
Horsefrost · 46-50, M
@ElwoodBlues No, I have already discussed my point. Let us wait and watch. All these 4 years, you could wait endlessly and now in a month, you feel exhausted.
@Horsefrost says
and now in a month, you feel exhausted.
Not really. It was over two years ago that tRump first promised he could end that war in 24 hours. Eleven months ago he said he's have it settled before he took office. Let's check the quotes.





tRump, May 2023: “They’re dying, Russians and Ukrainians. I want them to stop dying. And I’ll have that done — I’ll have that done in 24 hours.”

tRump, Sept 2024: “That is a war that’s dying to be settled. I will get it settled before I even become president,” Trump said during his September debate with then-Vice President Kamala Harris. “If I win, when I’m president-elect, and what I’ll do is I’ll speak to one, I’ll speak to the other. I’ll get them together.”

tRump, Mar 15, 2025: "Pretty good vibes coming out of Russia" ... "I feel that Russia is going to make a deal with us."

tRump tweet, Apr 24, 2025:

That "Vladimir, STOP!" really oozes impotence, doesn't it? This empty threat of "severe consequences" is likewise loudly communicating impotence to the world. And it hasn't been just a month; it's been the better part of a year.






Meanwhile, his promise “When I win, I will immediately bring prices down, starting on day one,” stated over a table of groceries a year ago, is also unfulfilled. In fact, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, from June to July, the cost of wholesale vegetables skyrocketed 38.9%.

These are major campaign promises; one to be fulfilled before election; the other starting on "day one." It hasn't been just a month; it's been almost EIGHT. So tell me: if not month 8 then when, according to you, is the time to get impatient about these broken promises???

Horsefrost · 46-50, M
I do get a feeling where Trump acted like Elder brother to younger Putin.
tRump first went to the old soviet union bakc in 1987
where Vladimir Putin was working in espionage

look up the word "Komprmate"
@calicuz the entire USA is probably a Putin bot and should be bull dozed and forced onto treatment or a shelter.
calicuz · 56-60, M
@Roundandroundwego

Well, I don't know about all that, but when this all over in 3 1/2 years, and America recovers and progresses as we should, we're going to have to build new insane asylums for all the MAGAs that are going to lose their minds. Just like the last time the Extreme Right lost a major push back against progress........... the Civil War.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@SatyrService
tRump and Putin to collaborate

and what has putin given up? In what way has putin modified his behaviour?
IM5688 · 61-69, M
It's called diplomacy. Would you rather they sat and argued and fought and disrespected each other while accomplishing nothing at all?
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Dino11 · M
But Aren’t You Glad We Got That Worthless,
Week POS Biden Out Of Our WhiteHouse??
Hundreds of Thousands Killed in Biden’s
Vietnam, The Ukraine!


How many died there during Trump 1.0?

Horsefrost · 46-50, M
@ElwoodBlues War is certainly getting close to an end. People around the world could not call Putin to sit with them and discuss Ukraine. He did on his own.
calicuz · 56-60, M
@ElwoodBlues

This administration is nothing more than a dog and pony show. 🙄
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Dino11
Hundreds of Thousands Killed in Biden’s
Vietnam, The Ukraine!

How many of them were americans?

Who started the war eleven years ago?

Who targets schools, hospitals, apartment buildings, and playgrounds?

Incidentally, I don't know where 'the Ukkraine' is, but perhaps you mean Ukraine... where the russian are murdering the men, women, children, and babies, of a sovereign democracy. Is that the place you're trying to find?
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HobNoblin · 36-40, M
@SinlessOnslaught Fixed it for you. Слава кокаїну!
@HobNoblin That's quite the admission there.

I'll stick with Слава Україні.

Bye
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Yes, two homicidal brothers who shrug when being asked if they'll stop killing civilians. Adorable. 🤗
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@Elessar [media=https://youtu.be/q8hlzjFEvc4]
Putin speaks good English.
Americans have been obvious contempt for Russia and peace.
@AngelUnforgiven Tяump's Dilemma
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
Or the start of an unreciprocated love affair. Pedophile enthusiast, Cry-Baby-trump is in search of love. He has daddy issues.
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