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The most complex and complicated movies i've seen

I want to have a thematic groupings of films ongoing, ongoing all of them until all that pertain to that theme are mentioned.

It doesn't take much to confuse me with movies, normal people can understand things that don't latch onto my comprehension, I believe it's because there's just some real life activities that are normal that i've just skipped past entirely in this life of mine.

But I won't be talking about those because this would be the longest list of movies ever assembled for the topic of not understanding shit, for no one in the world could fail to grasp that many that are so well understood by regular people.

Some films may be seen as confusing which I just see as fantastic music video kinds of films those won't be included.

What remains are these, which I think only Oxford and Cambridge level higher ups could spell out in any great detail what's going on in them

Michael Haneke's 71 Fragments of a Chronology of Chance -- a title that makes you feel pretentious whenever you say it out loud. There a lot of interesting scenes, and some quite minimal and banal, and others which are violent, and tense. Chance operations for me usually evoke John Cage, the composer who left his compositions up to chance, aleatoric music. I can talk about his stuff more easily than this Haneke head scratcher. But he is definitely making a statement about violence and media, that's at least his calling card, most notable in Funny Games and Benny's Video, Haneke had a grungy beginning it feels like to me, but when he made The Piano Teacher, and that belongs to my films that made me cry post, i'm adding to that you can be sure, I feel that me crying is not the thing, those movies, most of them, can teach people a few things, but I'll leave it at that. Well Piano Teacher to me ushered in Haneke as a world class prestigious director of utmost sophistication.

Jean-Luc Godard's late films are pretty hard to decipher, much of it is collage stuff, he'll be quoting thinkers, always someone reading a book, montage is splintered up so much, scenes don't play all the way through, people doing oddball things for no clear reason. I think one of the best of these is First name Carmen, I believe a young Isabelle Huppert is in it, if she's the one where she walks down a snowy road and works at a place where it's like a factory, well this other one if I have them mixed up, also has an invigorating performance of a Beethoven string quartet, one of the late ones, which were Ludwig's finest quartets, well that segment, which in Godard's hands is not played all the way through, he punctuates his scenes with interruptions, kind of like what i'm doing with Happy Go Lucky, which I am enjoying a lot, REAL people, being funny as heck, love it! And i'll get back to it now, but whenever I remember a film that adheres to my themes i'll fill in all the gaps, from my slightly extensive history of watching films, there's many who have seen more than me, on Letterboxd, there's a guy with an avatar of Conrad Veidt from The Man Who Laughs, he's seen more than perhaps anyone else, what he does is he attempts, and quite successfully I might add every single film made, that's out there somehow in chronological order. There's a funny guy at Movie Time that boasts about how much he's seen and it is much less that this LB guy. Each of these guys have seen over 20K movies, what's my stats? Well I no longer know for sure, when I used LB seriously I had all the films I had seen up to that time and just passed the 5K amount, and i've not been as busy with movie watching since then, but maybe a 100 not sure. This is just to say, i'm no know it all, I can't wrap my head around normal storytelling, and there's still thousands i've yet to see, but most movies I would think of as a waste of time, there's only 3 kinds

1. Arthouse / auteur cinema
2. Refreshing silly movies
3. Experimental / avant-garde

I go at length because it's like I'm leaving behind an extensive labyrinthine record of what mattered in these areas of film, music and books, and speaking of books, I did read and record a fair bit, I earned some film time which is far from over. Life would be better if one didn't need to sleep, like if we just didn't feel fatigue, and could just do what we love 24/4 366 days a year 10 years a decade, and since we're going this route we'd be eternally enjoying the finest art ever made in all the forms it came in, but after 200 million years, it all gets so boring, and then as if this was a movie there'd be a hellish 15 minute finale where everyone is just going completely wild, with so many nifty camera tricks, and a rich musical mixture.

Jane Arden's The Other Side of the Underneath is an anarchic freak out fest, at times excruciating to look at, there's a scene with nude women playing around with broken pieces of glass for heaven's sake!! They could have easily cut themselves.

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justmeonline · 51-55, MNew
An interesting take on film art. I think there are experimental and "art" films well worth watching, of course. I also think more run-of-the-mill genre films have a lot of value too. Even familiar storylines can provide comfort as an entertainment value, which I think is what most people consume films for. There are deeper, more meaningful, or more deliberately artistic ones that aren't mainstream. In some ways they can be more fascinating, but I'm not beyond mainstream, though there are very few now that I consider different enough from the thousands I've seen before, to go all the way to the cinema for. Just my opinions :)
Adroneandastrain · 46-50, M
@justmeonline Yes, mainstream especially from the past has much value. But by definition, their purpose is primarily to entertain, and when one takes this medium to the next level,we're like wanting what that card says at the beginning of Fanny and Alexander -- Not for pleasure alone. For with these extra elements, we are treated more to the capturing a full experience, not just flashy highlights of something. These too are just my opinions. Thanks for sharing yours which I am sure is hundreds of times more knowledgeable than I. 👍
justmeonline · 51-55, MNew
@Adroneandastrain I find this is why at time I study films which I don't actually enjoy; but for the analysis of how they are constructed, and what they have to say, which I might not even agree with. Some can be very difficult, challenging, even, but art always can be, I think we'd agree :)
Adroneandastrain · 46-50, M
@justmeonline Agreed my friend!! Many of the great arthouse films I had to see a few times to appreciate, one neat memory is when I saw La grande bouffe, it shattered me sort of and I had to quick read online reviews to feel like I was on steady ground!! If you've seen that you may understand why it effected me like that. When I watched it a 2nd time the dangerous thrill was gone, it became just another neat movie with a cool music soundtrack.
justmeonline · 51-55, MNew
I studied film. It's quite early here, so I hope to read this properly when I'm more awake. Thanks for sharing. I look forward to it!
Adroneandastrain · 46-50, M
@justmeonline Wow!! I never properly studied, but it's a passion, self driven. Hope you find something of worth!!
justmeonline · 51-55, MNew
@Adroneandastrain I am very sure I will :)

 
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