So does this sound like the beginning to a new horror movie?
At a Boston University, scientists have combined the original Wuhan strain along with the Omicron strain of Covid...with an 80% kill rate to do research on it for future occurrences.
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ElwoodBlues · M
Well, in this case, it sounds like BAD JOURNALISM!
Apparently, The Daily Mail didn't read the whole report, or didn't understand what they read.
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“We want to address the false and inaccurate reporting about Boston University COVID-19 research, which appeared today in the Daily Mail," said the BU statement. “First, this research is not gain-of-function research, meaning it did not amplify the Washington state SARS-CoV-2 virus strain or make it more dangerous. In fact, this research made the virus replicate less dangerous.”
The school said the Daily Mail's reporting was sensationalized and took data from research on mice out of context.
“The animal model that was used was a particular type of mouse that is highly susceptible, and 80 to 100 percent of the infected mice succumb to disease from the original strain, the so-called Washington strain,” the school said. “Whereas Omicron causes a very mild disease in these animals.”
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[b]https://www.bu.edu/articles/2022/neidl-researchers-refute-uk-article-about-covid-strain/[/b]
[b]TL;DR:[/b] the mice BU used were far more susceptible to Covid than humans, so you can't in any way compare fatality rates.
Apparently, The Daily Mail didn't read the whole report, or didn't understand what they read.
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“We want to address the false and inaccurate reporting about Boston University COVID-19 research, which appeared today in the Daily Mail," said the BU statement. “First, this research is not gain-of-function research, meaning it did not amplify the Washington state SARS-CoV-2 virus strain or make it more dangerous. In fact, this research made the virus replicate less dangerous.”
The school said the Daily Mail's reporting was sensationalized and took data from research on mice out of context.
“The animal model that was used was a particular type of mouse that is highly susceptible, and 80 to 100 percent of the infected mice succumb to disease from the original strain, the so-called Washington strain,” the school said. “Whereas Omicron causes a very mild disease in these animals.”
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[b]https://www.bu.edu/articles/2022/neidl-researchers-refute-uk-article-about-covid-strain/[/b]
[b]TL;DR:[/b] the mice BU used were far more susceptible to Covid than humans, so you can't in any way compare fatality rates.
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SW-User
@ElwoodBlues moreover, it's not like diseases originating in wet markets is a novel concept, which why they are technically illegal in China
This link is from 2004 as an example:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(03)15329-9/fulltext
This link is from 2004 as an example:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(03)15329-9/fulltext
@SW-User what is it with you and your site your source crap? my info is from three years of reading. And this map means absolutely nothing. i see nothing on here that says what we are looking for. back when everyone was investigating...i saw a map where they were on the same block. by now, the wet market has been moved and the lab cleaned up. so none of this matters now.
and i recently read an article where an American woman says that when she went to investigate the lab that there were no bats being tested. But another woman that worked there said that this info is false because she herself had tested hundreds of bats and that is what the lab was mainly working on...Bats!
and i recently read an article where an American woman says that when she went to investigate the lab that there were no bats being tested. But another woman that worked there said that this info is false because she herself had tested hundreds of bats and that is what the lab was mainly working on...Bats!
@SW-User i tried to look up your map. the main road is renamed. and i cannot find the places that you are trying to point out.
ElwoodBlues · M
@DIABLISS by searching on part of the text, I found multiple hits easily. Here's one: [b]https://www.bu.edu/articles/2022/neidl-researchers-refute-uk-article-about-covid-strain/[/b]
And another: [b]https://www.wcvb.com/article/boston-university-calls-daily-mail-report-on-covid-19-research-false-inaccurate/41677875[/b]
As far as why researchers might look at likely dangerous outcomes, it's a very sensible thing to do, kinda like testing tires to see what can cause a blowout. Here's what I posted in answer to an earlier question about the same thing.
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First, you need to understand one of the sources of virus variation. Viruses enter cells and hijack the cell's resources & machinery to make copies of themselves - this means making copies of the proteins & genetic material of the virus. If a person happens to be infected with TWO viruses at once, material from both viruses can be present and reassemble into novel viruses. This happens in nature.
Careful people might try crossing various strains of Covid that are already circulating in order to see if there is some hybrid strain that's really dangerous. They would do this as a precaution to get a jump on something that might occur soon in nature.
They would then have the info needed to make vaccines against this really dangerous hybrid, just in case it occurs in nature and is able to mostly evade existing vaccines. This kind of work is done in biosafety labs certified to work with the most dangerous pathogens like Ebola. https://consteril.com/biosafety-levels-difference/
And another: [b]https://www.wcvb.com/article/boston-university-calls-daily-mail-report-on-covid-19-research-false-inaccurate/41677875[/b]
As far as why researchers might look at likely dangerous outcomes, it's a very sensible thing to do, kinda like testing tires to see what can cause a blowout. Here's what I posted in answer to an earlier question about the same thing.
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First, you need to understand one of the sources of virus variation. Viruses enter cells and hijack the cell's resources & machinery to make copies of themselves - this means making copies of the proteins & genetic material of the virus. If a person happens to be infected with TWO viruses at once, material from both viruses can be present and reassemble into novel viruses. This happens in nature.
Careful people might try crossing various strains of Covid that are already circulating in order to see if there is some hybrid strain that's really dangerous. They would do this as a precaution to get a jump on something that might occur soon in nature.
They would then have the info needed to make vaccines against this really dangerous hybrid, just in case it occurs in nature and is able to mostly evade existing vaccines. This kind of work is done in biosafety labs certified to work with the most dangerous pathogens like Ebola. https://consteril.com/biosafety-levels-difference/
@ElwoodBlues here is a great idea....do testing on those medical ships....not in a Boston University....not in a lab next to a wet market. and chemical warfare has been going on longer then our grandparents were alive. it needs to stop. Now. they also need to stop making nuclear weapons. if some boobs like in Russia decide to send them out, we all pay for it eventually
"researchers compared original COVID, Omicron, and a version of the two combined: this is where the misinformation about a "new strain" developed. " this is what i copied from an article...which states exactly what is said in OP
ElwoodBlues · M
@DIABLISS I'm sympathetic, but this country has enough "sport" hunters and fishermen that I don't think we could get such a law.
Even though "mad cow disease" CWD has been found in the brains of free range deer, elk, and moose in the US, I don't think we'll get such a law.
Even though "mad cow disease" CWD has been found in the brains of free range deer, elk, and moose in the US, I don't think we'll get such a law.
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ElwoodBlues · M
@DIABLISS No, it's not. See my post with the BU context.
@ElwoodBlues wrong...we are all guinea pigs