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Sword and Scale podcast

It’s not about a movie or TV, it’s about a podcast I want to recommend.
It’s called Sword and Scale. I’m in love with this show and the host’s voice.
It’s pretty tough bc he treats crimes, many of them, pretty bizarre.
He, Mike Boudet, recounts a true crime story, and uses pieces of 911calls, real trials audios and accompained all this with great music.
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Allelse · 36-40, M
I love that podcast! Though you know what it has taught me? That most 911 operators couldn't give a flying fuck and not only that they're completly bloody fucking useless.

"Please, please, he's in the house, he's got the gun!! Help".

"sir, can you tell me your first name".

"Help!! HELP HE's GOT THE GUN!! FUCK!! sEND HELP!!".

"sir calm down, tell me, what is your first name".

"ARRRHAGHGHGHAGHRHRHA!!! HE's In THE ROOM!! HE's GOT THE AXE!",

"sir, again, I will hang up if you cant calm down".

"ARRHGHGHGGHGHGHGHGH!!" 'sounds of somebody getting chopped up with axe.

"sorry sir, since you cant cooperate I'm disconnecting the call".

Beep bepp bepp.
twistermind · 51-55, F
@Allelse 😂 Yes, I know what you mean.
They try to get all the possible information registered for the police and sometimes it makes me pretty nervous.
Allelse · 36-40, M
@twistermind But it is a good podcast. Did you listen to the episode about the 'dark web' ? I dont know about you but it made me a little green around the gills.
twistermind · 51-55, F
@Allelse Yes, my god! There isn’t a single episode I haven’t stired by but there have been a couple of them that was absolutely chilling normally related to little kids and animals’ being abused.,
This episode you mention about the deep or back web ends up so freaking hard to hear.
The normal web already scares the shit out of me that you can guess my fears regarding the matters from the deep web are.

Sometimes, people tell me how freak, mad and dark I am bc I feel curiosity to know about these kind of topics. I told them that only bc I want to know about what’s happening it doesn’t mean that I could be a dangerous person. I don’t see it like that. My main goal is curiosity for what humans are able to do, the circumstances, our brain and all these complex web composed by our temperament (genetic tendencies) along with our envirement.
I also like to know what we can do to prevent this kind of events.

I confess you that I had to stop some episodes bc it was so hard to hear.
I sometimes think about how some people are prone to look for monsters in groups of aliens like reptilians and all those theories when the real mosters are among us.
Did you have to stop any episode bc you couldn’t deal with hearing it?

Sorry for the long post but I don’t have many people to talk about this topic.
twistermind · 51-55, F
@Allelse Btw, I forgot to ask you if you heard that episode about 911 operators. It’s tough how they have to deal with long shifts.
I think that I couldn’t do this job. I’m so prone to put myself in the other person’s shoes that I’m afraid that I would need to make my own 199 calling to help me as well. :-(
Allelse · 36-40, M
Yeah kids and animals for me too, kids I can handle a little better, but not by much. But animals, just sends me over the motherfucking top. You're not a freak, you're not dark and you're not twisted. Humanity is ah, well you know what its like and its natural to be curious. Also if we dont have the balls to get to understand this shit, we can never stop it from happening, or know what to do when it does! so by all means, I'm happy to talk about this stuff.

Well, the way I look at it, from being interested in this shit most of my life. Nature and nurture, we're abit of each, but some people lean a little one way, or the other. But in the end it comes down to choice. THEIR choice to act, or not to act. someone born with some bad wiring may grow up in a good family, and perhaps that environment helps them to understand compassion, or maybe their nature is too prevalent and they up raping their little sister, and molesting the neighbour. And you know what everyone does? They stand around afterwards going "But we raised him right!!". But some people are born with abit of bad wiring. But then there are people born with bad wiring, bad upbringing who do not act and it might be because they dont want to go to jail, that being in jail would really suck!!! But their decision is their own. You have that motherfucker Bundy saying that oh it was viewing pornography at a young age that gave him the urdges! Fuck that. He was born with an anti-social personality, but at the same time, I mean we cant go locking everyone up with these sort of personality traits because not all of them end up killing women for fun, most of them function perfectly well. I mean someone having a personality disorder does make things easier, but sometimes its not that simple. Alot of crime is simply 'Well I felt like it'. They hit the neighbour, they stole the lipstick, they fucked chick who was half drunk. Why? I mean you look at them and they're just people, like the rest of us, a mix of nurture and nature, no way or the other and they did it because they decided to act. They decided in that very moment to be selfish and/or cruel. All very fascinating and never without a single answer. Though I'm personally not that complicated. Give me the chance to beat a child rapist to death with my bare hands, and get away with it, I'd certainly goddamn consider it.


Hey! There's nothing wrong with stopping. I gotta say the ah, stuff about raping and killing babies in the dark web stuff made me a little green around the gills. I mean, to do that to a little baby? That son of a bitch who did it, that Australian guy who was interviewed!


No I dont think I have listened to the one about 911 operators. And yeah it must be tough, but still sometimes they sound very apathetic about it all. some poor buggers in trouble and they're all "sir, please stop shouting, yes I know he's dissecting you alive, but sir, please stop making noise".
twistermind · 51-55, F
I can’t agree more with all you have said. At least, taking into account what we already know from current researches.
Still we are to see what future researches can show us up, you know...mainly about the brain functioning studies or on the other side, how it can be affected bc of different trauma.

I also think very much like you in what it comes to the simplicity of the cause in most of the crimes. We don’t have to look for strange explanations, most of the times are due to a bad choice and let our most selfish reaction arises: Money, control over the other person, revenge bc of a harmed ego, fullfilling of sexual apetites no matter what...It has been occurring since the ancient times and no matter how much culture has a society. Remember, Germany in the middle of past century. Not a more cultural advanced society and look what happened.

One of the episodes I had to stop was the double one about Luka Magnota. If you know these episodes you will understand why. I’m against death penalty bc I even have remorses if I have to kill an insect but I really feel like punching this guy so badly.
Allelse · 36-40, M
My mother has a psychopath's brain and I remember her telling me and thinking "Yep! That explains alot".

I also think people 'over complicate' or 'over dramatise'serial killers. Like the TV show Dexter for instance. The man's a killer, he's a psychopath. "Oh be only kills bad people!!". so what? Doesn't matter. He's a killer, plain and simple, he kills because he's a killer, he doesn't feel, he's a psychopath with a compulsion for killing. Nothing 'WONDERFUL!!' or 'Clever' or 'AMAZING!!' about any of it.


Yeah they say 'serial killers are a new thing!". Bullshit! I mean what the hell do you lads like Attila the Hun and Genghis Khan were if not psychopaths of some sort. I mean there is no 'one true' type of psychopath, they're all different. But in modern society the behaviour shows out in different ways. I mean back in the day you could take up with some nasty folk and turn bandit, or join the local horde and go raping and pillaging. Or hell! Be a normal serial killer in a town or village, and the fuck the locals going to do about it? There's no DNA evidence or proper form of detection. I mean in the old days you had folk dropping dead all the time from all sorts of things, so if you went about killing folk in the dark ages, I mean, who the bleeding hell is going to be there to sort it out proper. Most likely they'll pick whoever they figure probably did it, hang him and be done with it.

Yeah I'm against the death penalty too, because blood doesn't wash away blood, it just adds more to the bucket. But yeah I wouldn't mind being put in a room with some of these fellows. Beat their fucking heads in.
twistermind · 51-55, F
It’s true. I also think each criminal is a singular case as much as we can deduce some common paterns or characteristics.
There’s nothing shown up so far that can lead us to predict that a person is gonna become a criminal.

The mention about your mother’s brain made me recall this neuroscientist who discovered that his brain looked in the scanner like the ones from diagnosed psychopaths.
You can have a tendency to develop some traits in your personality more than others bc of some tendendies you were born with but in the end, household is the one that it’s gonna modelate or trigger them.
Allelse · 36-40, M
Very much so! Each person, criminal, case etc is different. And I think too many people look at crimes as statistics, looking for patterns and such which doesn't always help you catch bad guys; because people are people and you can never predict what they're going to do. I mean person born with some bad wiring isn't a dead certain to kill, cut and eat his neighbour.

Exactly, you can have the hard wiring, you can even have the bad upbringing, but what alot of people fail to remember, is that it all comes to down to choice. And there's no predicting to any real certain degree, who's going to one day do a Ted Bundy, or go on a shooting spree at school.