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If terrorists break into a school would you just bomb the whole building or find other ways to kill the terrorists without kids dying?
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LeopoldBloomM
If it was in Russia, they would just kill e everyone.
@LeopoldBloom Umm no. Israel has killed more civilians in absolute numbers and by percentage. Try again.


You are really really desperate to support genocide here.
Guitarman12331-35, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow not only that. On his profile, he claims to he anti nationalist
@Guitarman123 The lack of self awareness. Yikes.
Guitarman12331-35, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow absolutely. Its kinda frightening
LeopoldBloomM
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow It's not "genocide," and just repeating a buzzword because it makes you feel good isn't convincing. If genocide is by actions, then neither Hamas nor the IDF are engaging in it. If it's by intentions, then Hamas is guilty.
@LeopoldBloom Umm no. Words have definitions. You want to pretend it isn't happening so you can feel good about being a Bibi fanboy.


Israel intends genocide and openly says so and their actions also prove it.

Your feelings don't matter.


But it is clear just like the Trumpists you will deny objective reality to cling to your demagogue.
LeopoldBloomM
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Hamas, by their own words, intends to carry out a genocide. You're just giving them a pass because they're not very good at it. Apparently, Israel isn't good at it either because the population of Gaza and West Bank has exploded since 1967.

And I'm not a "Bibi fanboy." The one good thing to come out of this is that criminal's political career will end soon. You're the real Bibi fanboy. You want him in there because he makes it easier for you to play the victim. The last thing you want is a liberal Israeli PM who is willing to work with the Palestinian leadership and give them their own state.
@LeopoldBloom First off you have to go back to an outdated charter that even Hamas doesn't use to make that argument stick. And nobody is giving them a pass on what they actually did.


You give a blanket pass to Israel and Bibi on both words and actions of genocide because like a Trump lemming your entire position revolves around blind faith in dear leader.

And you really seem to love to double down or racist tropes. As if Birth rates even if true have ever had anything to do with the definition of genocide.

I guess you think what is it now 140 000 gazans just dropped dead? 20k under rubble according to MSF.


You are a fanboy. You blindly accept all Israeli propaganda and gaslight everyone here on a genocide in progress. And 14000 people are his victims. There is no playing here.

But we get it. Dead Arabs don't count with you. You have made that crystal clear.


And Rabin is already dead. There is no such person in the Israeli government and hasn't been in decades. People like Bibi are the reason people like Rabin end up dead.

And that is not hyperbole. Rabin's widow blamed Netanyahu and his followers for her husband's death.

And being another uneducated liberal orientalist you are still trying to gaslight people that a two state solution has ever been a serious consideration for 30 years.
@LeopoldBloom And I know you keep bringing it up as some racist talking point but high birthrates are actually pretty much the norm in places with grinding poverty and where people don't live into adulthood.

Quit pretending it is something unique in Gaza.
LeopoldBloomM
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow It's not unique to Gaza, but it negates the entire "genocide" smear. If genocide is based on actions, neither side is guilty of it. If it's based on intentions, then Hamas is definitely guilty as their stated goal is the eradication of all Jews "from the river to the sea."

It's weird how on one hand, you support Russia's invasion of Ukraine, a country that didn't threaten it, but oppose Israel's invasion of Gaza in response to a genocidal attack.
@LeopoldBloom Genocide has a definition and it is not dictated by your feelings. And again you have to be deliberately dishonest and site the group from 40 years ago to even make your double standard work.

1200 and feelings is genocide to you but 14k dead and 20k under rubble with no way to get them out is just meaningless numbers.


And I see you still have to lie about me and my positions to pretend it is I and not you who has different moral standards based on your feelings.

I am not and never have been a supporter of Putin but you have been ignoring that for over a year now and lying about me so I don't see why I bother correcting the record when you clearly have no interest in honest discourse.
LeopoldBloomM
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Genocide isn't based on your feelings either. Misusing the word for its emotional effect is no different from anti-abortion fanatics calling abortion "baby murder."

The silence of the so-called left in the face of other genocides while focusing on one that isn't even happening in Gaza is telling. By your standard, Putin's war in Ukraine is a genocide, as Russian officials have proposed removing Ukrainian children from their parents to be raised in Russia, to obliterate Ukrainian culture and society.
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