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Narcissists and forced kindness [I Want To Spread Narcissism Awareness]

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SinlessOnslaught · 26-30, M
Where's that video you posted months ago with the doctor driving while talking about narcissists developing through childhood?
berangere · 80-89, F
@SinlessOnslaught I cannot remember posting that video,someone else could have posted it.I will look up some videos to see if I come across it.
SinlessOnslaught · 26-30, M
@berangere Don't burden yourself
berangere · 80-89, F
@SinlessOnslaught It could be an interesting video but in my opinion,narcissists are born and not made their brains are wired differently from normal brains,there could even be a genetic component to having narcissism,some people when growing up in a narcissistic environment turn into empaths.
SinlessOnslaught · 26-30, M
@berangere Hmmm... 🤔
berangere · 80-89, F
@SinlessOnslaught Found a video you will find interesting,I now vaguely remember the video you mentioned but could not find it among my posts.

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SinlessOnslaught · 26-30, M
@berangere I think that's the same doctor!
@berangere this had been debunked. That there is no association at all behind the brain structure and development of this condition. It was something that was reviewed excessively when I was taking abnormal psychology in college.
berangere · 80-89, F
@CleverFunnyNameGoesHere This is a recent article.

https://cptsdfoundation.org/2020/06/22/the-neuroscience-of-narcissism-and-narcissistic-abuse/
@berangere thank you for sharing your source. But the article you are using is relying on old science (you can see the sources cited are from 2008 through 2014 there is one source from 2017) and the area of the brain they specifically discuss is the area of the brain that is most commonly affected or deformed that causes mental illness or (and this blew my mind when I learned about it) can become deformed due to trauma from ptsd.

Most of these articles I'm sharing are from this year, some are older. But the point I'm trying to make, is that the "differences" to brain structure that some psychologists claim is indicative of narcissism is far more frequently seen in other mental and physical health disorders and can even be caused by emotional trauma.

Using that difference in brain structure to define narcissism, dismisses all the other legitimate handicaps that person may have that could be incorrectly diagnosed as narcissism. Most especially, autism.

resistance or susceptibility to PTSD
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-51727-3

Brain structure and empathy
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7267919/

Awareness (consciousness)
https://www.nature.com/articles/nrn2555

Autism
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2743776/

Processing sensation
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2743776/

Mood disorders
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/10/191030120309.htm

Parkinson's disease
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7390521/

Ptsd changes brain structure
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7352752/#idm140452312782064title
berangere · 80-89, F
@CleverFunnyNameGoesHere Yes there are different disorders that can result from brain abnormality,but narcissistic personality disorder is one of them.I see that you have good knowledge in that area,you have studied it extentively,but have you yourself suffered from narcissistic abuse? People who do not have experienced it could have clinical knowledge but have not actually gone through the soul destroying experience living with a narcissist can wreck on your life.
@berangere I have extensive professional and personal experience with narcissists. It is devastating. And it does make you wonder if you did something to wrong them and what it could have been that you did wrong when you capitulated in every way they wanted.

It is the narcissist's fault. It really is if they are abusing you.

But I also know that a lot of people are accused of narcissism who are not narcissistic, and instead of treatment for their illness or PTSD they are treated like a monster. And their condition worsens until someone finally makes a correct diagnosis. But the damage to their social lives, their family, their careers is done.

Which sounds like I'm saying "be nice, they didn't know better" what I'm saying is you can't accurately diagnose without absolute honesty with the person accused of narcissism and a lot of medical and psychological testing.