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CountScrofula · 41-45, M
Oh are we making things up? Okay!
Uh uh uh Joe Biden keeps a dragon in his shed. He doesn't treat it very well.
Uh uh uh Joe Biden keeps a dragon in his shed. He doesn't treat it very well.
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Askeladd · 31-35, M
@CountScrofula What did I make up?
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Askeladd · 31-35, M
@CountScrofula if you could confront me with basic evidence, you would have. Make all the excuses you want. What I said is factual.
LeopoldBloom · M
@Askeladd "Factual" if your only source of information is Russian propaganda.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
@Askeladd Okay let's pick one.
Genital mutilation of children, presumably you're talking about transgender stuff.
How many kids have had these surgeries? Where can you get one? What's the surgical procedure? Gimme some detail if this is a hard cold fact.
I claim this absolutely does not happen. Best I can find is top surgery in a few cases of teens over 15.
Genital mutilation of children, presumably you're talking about transgender stuff.
How many kids have had these surgeries? Where can you get one? What's the surgical procedure? Gimme some detail if this is a hard cold fact.
I claim this absolutely does not happen. Best I can find is top surgery in a few cases of teens over 15.
Askeladd · 31-35, M
@CountScrofula So it absolutely does not happen but you found a few cases of it happening?
LeopoldBloom · M
@Askeladd Before anyone is given genital surgery, they have to undergo extensive psychological testing, including dressing and living as the opposite gender for a while. If they start as teenagers, by the time they're ready for surgery, they're adults.
If you were truly opposed to the genital mutilation of children, you'd be demanding that circumcision, which is inflicted on two-thirds of boys in the US, be outlawed. Instead, you're terrified of trans people and feel better at the thought of oppressing them.
If you were truly opposed to the genital mutilation of children, you'd be demanding that circumcision, which is inflicted on two-thirds of boys in the US, be outlawed. Instead, you're terrified of trans people and feel better at the thought of oppressing them.
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ffony · M
@CountScrofula
you're an outrage addict.
Nice phrase; and I liked the whole post.
SarahAndSamantha · 51-55, T
@Askeladd hey, thanks for your support! Because transitioning IS the treatment for our 'mental illness'
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SarahAndSamantha · 51-55, T
@Askeladd So, serious question. i want an honest answer. where do I go? If, according to you, I can't be in the women's spaces (apparently for their safety), and I sure as hell can't be in men's 'spaces', for MY safety, where do I tinkle in public? or does my safety not matter to you? Rhetorical question, I know it doesn't..
Askeladd · 31-35, M
@SarahAndSamantha Your safety matters, but not more than anyone else’s. Why should women be made to feel uncomfortable on your account? Do their concerns and safety matter to you? And again, my issue isn’t really with toilets in most cases. It’s other spaces that I’m more concerned with.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
SarahAndSamantha · 51-55, T
@Askeladd and there's the rib. 'why should women be made to feel uncomfortable on my account" versus "Why do I have to put myself in harms way to keep them from FEELING uncomfortable". Do you see the distinction there? Of course you don't.
So, my safety doesn't matter compared to someone else being uncomfortable. At least be honest
vYour safety matters, but not more than anyone else’s. Why should women be made to feel uncomfortable on your account?
So, my safety doesn't matter compared to someone else being uncomfortable. At least be honest
Askeladd · 31-35, M
@CountScrofula I didn’t specify genitalia. I said mutilating their bodies and you gave an example of that.
Askeladd · 31-35, M
@SarahAndSamantha
It’s selfish to only care about what you want or how you feel. How would you be putting yourself in harms way? I’m being honest. I said your safety matters, but just as much as everyone’s and not more.
It’s selfish to only care about what you want or how you feel. How would you be putting yourself in harms way? I’m being honest. I said your safety matters, but just as much as everyone’s and not more.
SarahAndSamantha · 51-55, T
@Askeladd How am I putting myself in harms way? Ask Cobalt Sovereign. you really think i'd be safe in the men's room? believe me, i'm not. notice, i didn't say i don't FEEL safe there. I don't FEEL uncomfortable there (although, yeah, that's true too, but not the point here)
I. AM. NOT. SAFE. THERE.
yes, I worry about my safety first. That's true. We all do. It's not selfish, it's self preservation. you're not being honest, my safety doesn't matter to you, or if it does at all, which it doesn't, it doesn't matter as much as someone else's feelings of discomfort.
I. AM. NOT. SAFE. THERE.
yes, I worry about my safety first. That's true. We all do. It's not selfish, it's self preservation. you're not being honest, my safety doesn't matter to you, or if it does at all, which it doesn't, it doesn't matter as much as someone else's feelings of discomfort.
Askeladd · 31-35, M
@SarahAndSamantha Why wouldn’t you be safe there? There are reports that Cobalt Sovereign was using racial slurs and that was what prompted the attack.
I don’t worry about my safety first. I worry about my family’s safety first. And how are going to tell me what I’m being honest about? If your safety didn’t matter to me I would definitely just tell you.
I don’t worry about my safety first. I worry about my family’s safety first. And how are going to tell me what I’m being honest about? If your safety didn’t matter to me I would definitely just tell you.
SarahAndSamantha · 51-55, T
@Askeladd Complete disclosure, i hadn't heard about the racial slurs. If that's truly the cause for the attack, well, I still don't condone it, but it's would make it moot for this argument. That being said, seriously don't be obtuse. Don't pretend we don't get attacked.
Oh, sorry. my apologies. you worrying about your family's safety above others is totally different. Wait, no it's not. Their safety IS important, but no more than someone else's discomfort.
I'm going to tell you about what you're being honest about because I know you. Don't get me wrong, i've never met you, you could be my neighbor or someone halfway across the world for all I know, but I do know you. I see you everyday. In the heart of every transphobe, in the smile of every TERF. you're all clones of each other. Same phrases, same BS. 99 percent of the time, the exact same single joke.
What's next, no really, i'm good with ya'll, I totally and for reals yo have trans friends!! And they completely agree with everything I say against them, bruh.
ya'll seriously need to get some new material
Oh, sorry. my apologies. you worrying about your family's safety above others is totally different. Wait, no it's not. Their safety IS important, but no more than someone else's discomfort.
I'm going to tell you about what you're being honest about because I know you. Don't get me wrong, i've never met you, you could be my neighbor or someone halfway across the world for all I know, but I do know you. I see you everyday. In the heart of every transphobe, in the smile of every TERF. you're all clones of each other. Same phrases, same BS. 99 percent of the time, the exact same single joke.
What's next, no really, i'm good with ya'll, I totally and for reals yo have trans friends!! And they completely agree with everything I say against them, bruh.
ya'll seriously need to get some new material
Askeladd · 31-35, M
@SarahAndSamantha All people get attacked. Trans people attack people. It shouldn’t happen.
It’s different because I’m putting others ahead of myself. I’m sure most people put their family above themselves and everyone else, but that’s pretty irrelevant here. I only brought that up because you said everyone puts themselves first. They don’t.
You want special treatment. You’re right about one thing, though. You don’t know me. I’ve told you exactly what I mean and haven’t been dishonest. I haven’t told any jokes or said that I have trans friends. If you generalize everyone like you are me, it will only ostracize you further.
It’s different because I’m putting others ahead of myself. I’m sure most people put their family above themselves and everyone else, but that’s pretty irrelevant here. I only brought that up because you said everyone puts themselves first. They don’t.
You want special treatment. You’re right about one thing, though. You don’t know me. I’ve told you exactly what I mean and haven’t been dishonest. I haven’t told any jokes or said that I have trans friends. If you generalize everyone like you are me, it will only ostracize you further.
SarahAndSamantha · 51-55, T
@Askeladd no, you misunderstood me. i DO know you. you're generalizing yourself, and pretending it's not obvious.
Askeladd · 31-35, M
@SarahAndSamantha I didn’t misunderstand you. You’re the dishonest one here. You haven’t engaged in good faith at all.
LeopoldBloom · M
@Askeladd When do trans people attack anyone? They're usually the ones attacked by people like you who view them as an affront to God or nature.
Askeladd · 31-35, M
@LeopoldBloom
When do trans people attack anyone?
Everyday. people like you
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