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USA psychology, 1970s vs today

I read something the other day that said something like 1 in 44 children today is somewhere "on the spectrum". Considering most children go through childhood never talking to a psychologist, it seems the diagnosis rate must be very high. Yikes Some folks like to blame childhood vaccines. As a person who grew up in the 1970s and 1980s, things seem quite different to me in the world of psychology.

1970s: "My child is shy." 2020s: Autism
1970s: "My child is a picky eater." 2020s: Autism
1970s: "My child s really into his hobbies." 2020s: Autism
1970s: "My child is brilliant." 2020s: Autism
1970s: "My child lags academically." 2020s: Autism
1970s: "My child is hyper sometimes." 2020s: Autism
1970s: "I can't get my child away from her books." 2020s: Autism

Am I right? I get the feeling that any parent who brings their child into a psychologist today with any kind of issue is likely to walk out with an ASD diagnosis. My guess is that insurance is behind this, as an ASD diagnosis requires an insurance company to pay for services and gives the parents greater access to public services. A benefit to the parents, for sure, but are we really serving children well if we are slapping a diagnosis on 1 in every 44 kids?
Graylight · 51-55, F
According to the CDC, about 1% of the world’s population has autism spectrum disorder. The CDC also reports that as many as 1-36 American children have been identified with autism spectrum disorder (ASD). And those numbers don't jibe.

The number of US children reported with ASD has risen steadily since at least 2000. Why is this? One perspective is that psychology, like medicine, evolves at a constant pace and what used to be a mystery is now a solvable riddle. Understand the brain better, identify problems and target trouble earlier and more efficiently. Another view is that the US fixation with labels and medication is driving the increase. People diagnose themselves and their children through YouTube and TikTok now and will see their PCP as a mental health provider. You bet they'll walk out with meds. The whole ADHD/ASD phenomenon? Not even proven in science thoroughly yet.

It's not insurance-driven, not autism. There are only two recognized medications to treat autism and the rest is really CBT and learning skills. If actual services are needed to sustain daily activities, then the diagnosis is legitimate.

And here's the thing with all those kids we simply tossed off as being lazy, picky shy and more: Many of them didn't grow up to enjoy much success in their lives, as their mental disorders were never identified and treated. Just because the past is "how we did things" doesn't make those things right or correct.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@Graylight Well, both my kids were recently diagnosed ASD. The psychologist used accepted criteria in her diagnosis, and another of our kids' doctors agrees with the diagnosis. Based upon the definition of "autism" that I understood 20+ years ago - I doubt any teacher or non- clinical person interacting with my kids would notice anything different at all. I'm used to autistic kids being slow or very literal with language, hyper focused, unable to adapt to changes in routines, or having problems with social interaction. My kids have *some* issues with changes in routine, but I don't think it is much worse than other kids. My daughter likes things in certain orders, but it does not cause her much distress if they aren't. They do well in school, get along with other kids, and for the most part function the same as other kids their age.

The only exception is my 6-year old daughter does not like to go #2 and constipates herself and does not like the feel of toilet paper and wants to use wet wipes. Based upon that, my wife took the kids to the psychologist, and came out with an ASD diagnosis. The Psychologist remarked how this was not a bad thing because now the school district is required to accommodate and our insurance company is now required to cover certain therapies 100%. So I do think government mandates for insurance and schools may play a role here.
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@trollslayer I feel it's just an easy and lazy diagnosis for the doctors and then they can prescribe drugs and get more money.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@JimboSaturn I had a psychiatrist for awhile who was very open with me. He was very blunt in saying that ADHD in kids was way over diagnosed and over medicated
windinhishair · 61-69, M
Most of your individual traits don't result in an autism diagnosis. There are more diagnostic tools available today than there were 50 years ago, and it isn't surprising that autism is more frequently diagnosed today than then. You are correct that psychology (and psychiatry) is very different than it was 50 years ago. Like any other profession, it will continue to evolve as knowledge and understanding improves.
Queendragonfly · 31-35, F
Shy and autistic isn't the same thing. People on the spectrum they have no sense for social norms or codes. My friend is on the spectrum. He can mention all kinds of inappropriate things because he don't understand that there's things you can't say out loud. To him it pops up and he just express it and forget the 100 times others tell him that you can say A but not B because to him, it just isn't registered due to a certain default activity in his brain.

Shyness is just a low self esteem issue. Not a neurodivergent issue.

1970 was when DSM was starting to be built. I've read plenty of books from doctors and psychiatrists who were a part of the DSM system as well as PTSD and CPTSD disorders.

Did you know people with CPTSD are likely misdiagnosed with ADHD?
in10RjFox · M
Parents are the culprits who make candidates for the medical world to thrive.i have noticed that it has also become a fashion amidst parents to brag that they are very caring and responsible. Psychologists actually collect such complaints from parents and apply on the other as if it's their diagnosis..

Children too use it to their advantage and become more dependent on parents.
I think it might be the diagnosis [i]du jour[/i], much like ADD/ADHD.

In fact, it makes me wonder if it isn't just a way to try to handle male children (which was one of the pushes behind ADD/ADHD).

Everyone is also on the brilliance spectrum, but many aren't where they think they are.
Gloomy · F
You are very wrong and you even conflate Autism with ADHD which people keep saying is being diagnosed increasingly but even that is a false perception.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@Gloomy I may be, and that is intentional. in the 90s and 2000s ADHD diagnoses seemed more prevalent, and now it seems the shift is toward ASD.

My question is at what rate of occurrence does one say something is either over diagnosed or the criteria are too broad? If it gets to where 1 in 25 has a particular psychological condition, is it really a condition anymore, or just a variation of the normal?
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
@trollslayer you are conflating the two.
I have ADHD inattentive variety, it differs markedly from autism. My best friend is on the spectrum. There are similarities, but there's also huge differences between us. I have horrible executive functioning, he is hyper-organized.
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trollslayer · 46-50, M
@LvChris There are loads of parents these days that want some sort of explanation for why their kids are difficult to parent, turning to external excuses rather than internal reflection.
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trollslayer · 46-50, M
@LvChris The "1 in 44" is from an article I read in a magazine likely while I was waiting for a dr appointment. I don't remember the article or the source, so I am very open to being wrong here.

As for me not wanting parents to get help? No, my motivation is the exact opposite. I worry that if ASD is being over diagnosed or the spectrum is too broad, the kids may be lumped into a generalization and not get the targeted help they need. I also worry of the negative affects if there is only a *perception* that it is over diagnosed, and parents not seeking help because of that perception. I will admit I have avoided going to a doctor because I know the Dr would just tell me I am stressed, have arthritis, or a "general infection". My wife is a teacher and she has a student who is clearly ASD, but the parents refuse to get help because of a negative perception of over diagnosing. Or maybe parents fear that if their child is diagnosed, they will be treated differently, even if the impairment is extremely minor. I also worry that if too many people that have little to no impairment are diagnosed ASD and given access to the same services as those with more severe cases, then it spreads resources away from kids who truly need them.

Add I am not saying this is a "big scam" or claiming doctors are in collusion with healh care providers and legislators in order to rake in the $$$. I am saying this could be a product of how we have our health care laws and medical practices organized that encourages an ASD diagnosis rather than dealing with impairments in other ways.
Renaci · 36-40
Thing is autistic people are waaay better. Their social difficulties means they have to be taught socialization. This they are taught what is right and wrong to do in social situations.
Unlike normies that just run by instinct and do whatever pops into their flawless brains.
And look who the ones are that keep fucking up the world. The neurotypicals.
Bring on the neurodivergent and after that, AI to completely replace all humans.
Even though true autism is a devastating condition, it is now way over used to describe people who never learned to properly socialize due to poor parenting.

 
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