Can Someone With Vulnerable Narcissism...

@Graylight It's a lot more complicated than that. There are actually 10 different personality disorders (antisocial, psychopathy, NPD, histrionic etc etc etc) and each of them, narcissism is a facet but with slight differences in how the narcissism shows itself. I am NOT an expert but there's slight differences between the disorders however, narcissism tends to be a symptom of a lot. Also, both addicts and bipolar have narcissism as well. Bipolar people during bouts of mania will exhibit a higher sense of self importance and can come across as narcissistic.

It kind of goes something like this, "narcissists can be addicts but not all narcissists are addicts," though professionals are beginning to wonder if narcissism isn't addictive in so much the fact the NPD sufferer gets emotionally addicted to both negative and super positive attention.

So there's this great blog post that figures out the numbers but all the disorders together make about 16 million people, each with about two victims each typically and the victims may not know the person they are dealing with, so there's that. Antisocial people are about 1 in 30 so if your business is more than 30 people, the chances of at least 2 or 3 being around and secretly ruining your life if you unknowingly get on their radar is actually very good.

@SatanBurger There are narcissistic tendencies and there is the actual disorder, and that's where people get mixed up. To suffer from a disorder, it must be clinically significant, meaning the person is unable to function in life in a normal manner. A trait or behavior may seem like a disorder, it could be a sign of another disorder, or it could be indication of either a disorder no one's thought about or simply a difficult week. That's why diagnosis online is akin to finding all your medical advice online - you might find new, proven strategies and you might find Ivermectin.

Yes, a lot of people have tendencies, but the personality disorders you mention are significantly rare and hardly ever seen in the general public.

16 million people - in the US alone - represents 5.3% of the population; if you used a worldwide statistic, you can imagine the relevance. Though simply "adding up" all the disorders is a wildly inaccurate method.

THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW:
No. The prevalence of this very rare and life-altering personality disorder is 4%. Further, it's not avoiding people; it's a serious disorder that typically leads to sociopathy and lifelong trouble with authority. To help diagnose, this is where we start: The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM 5) classifies all ten personality disorders into three clusters (A, B, and C). Antisocial personality disorder falls into 1 of 4 cluster-B disorders, which also includes borderline, narcissistic, and histrionic. All of these disorders characteristically present with dramatic, emotional, and unpredictable interactions with others. Antisocial personality disorder is the only personality disorder that is not diagnosable in childhood. Before the age of 18, the patient must have been previously diagnosed with conduct disorder (CD) by the age of 15 years old to justify diagnostic criteria for ASPD. Not that simple.

Patently false. One disorder in no way indicates another, though we've traced oft-used roads of possibility.

Patently false. Right now in the psychological and medical community, behavioral problems like sex, online gaming etc. aren't even recognized as addictions, much less can another disorder's symptoms be addictive. Addiction is a highly specific, well-mapped and reasonable understood issue. Ever-evolving, but established.

I mention this stuff because you seem interested and do have insight on a lot. There are no easy answers and half of everything we know in the field is wrong...we just don't know which half yet. Science evolves, but it has to evolve on the good science that came before it to be legitimate.

@Graylight Well the only reason I bring up numbers is because people are always asking how there's so many victims of narcissists that seem to be a lot despite NPD being low. What I'm ultimately saying is that even if NPD was low, there's many disorders associates with low to no conscience and the person who was the victim, could have been the victim of any of these types of people. So in my opinion, it adds up.



Well I wasn't saying that at all. I was mainly saying that bipolar during manic episodes exhibits narcissism, this is why they can have similarities but only during episodes. Same thing with addicts, if people suspect an addict may have NPD, they have to treat the addiction first because some aspects of addiction can mirror narcissism. I didn't say that addiction or bipolar indicates narcissism.

https://www.healthline.com/health/bipolar-and-narcissism

https://thedawnrehab.com/blog/narcissism-and-drug-addiction/