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Trans - what IS that, really?

Why is it that if someone says they are 'trans' and claims I should respect that, they don't tell me what they actually mean? Is a trans woman a woman 'transed' to seem like a man or is it a man who seems like a woman? Are they men/women with anomalous or surgically altered genitals; are they psychologically deranged guys/gals who simply think they aren't, or are they just people playing silly buggers? If they can't be explicit about their condition why don't they STFU about it?
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Torsten · 36-40, M
its a mental illness. there is no way around that.
Nothing wrong with people who wanna live as the opposite sex, it becomes a problem when they try dictating that the rest of the world needs to indulge their delusions and ignore reality to play along with it.
PatKirby · M
@Torsten

Gender dysphoria.
Torsten · 36-40, M
@PatKirby exactly
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Torsten Whether doctors would class it as "mental illness" I do not know, despite the fancy language often used, and possibly encouraged by private-practice "therapists" charging hefty treatment fees.

However I do agree with your point of some apparently wanting special treatment for being in a minority.

When I turned my computer on yesterday, Mickeysoft's log-in page held some boast about the company's care for "LGBTQAI+", I think it was, and apparently referring to its employment terms.

Whence that AI, which don't think means Artificial Intelligence/Idiocy here? Plus what? Plus-Fours? Pi*R squared?

How much longer is this wretched alphabet-soup going to grow before society realises we are all just people with individual characteristics and traits, and give up this fad for cramming everyone into database-like categories and artificial "communities"?

Like it or lump it, strengths and weaknesses, in health or illness, male or female, we are all just... human beings.
Torsten · 36-40, M
@ArishMell Gender dysphoria is a mental illness and you cant be transgender without it, so that makes being transgender a mental illness.
I dont say its a mental illness to put those with it down or anything. I think when people here mental illness that its just discredited or whatever but its just reality that when your brain tricks you into thinking you're something you shouldnt be to the point you would mutilate your own body, thats a clear cut mental illness.

I think people are now finally fighting back against this absurdity that comes with the lgbtq community and them trying to enforce their fantasies and sexual perversions on the majority of society.
Pride month this year is a example of that. Normally you would have companies pandering to them like crazy but this year they are not doing that, because they seemingly have got the message that there is no money in it for them anymore.
People see that and repulse against it.

People are tired of it and we might finally be on track to getting back to some normalcy and living in reality instead of others delusions.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Torsten I see. I understand your point that , but then you contradict yourself by following this:

I don't say its a mental illness to put those with it down or anything

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absurdity that comes with the lgbtq community and them trying to enforce their fantasies and sexual perversions on the majority of society.

Further, no-one is trying to "enforce" thing on others. Preventing sexual crimes is one thing but a totally separate matter; but such enforcement would not only be impossible, but attempts at it would be cruel and foolish to attempt. And that includes so-called "straight" people trying to oppress homo-, bi - or cross- sexuals.

Those with cross-sexual drives want the understanding and respect they deserve simply as people - but I do object to some of them seemingly wanting to be treated as somehow special merely for being in a minority.

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I don't like the "Pride" rhubarb either, but I can understand it having stemmed from homosexuals and bisexuals of both sexes fighting back against a history of prejudice and persecution by ignorant and frightened heterosexuals.

I don't suppose the "Pride" events are attended by more than a small proportion of their supposed "community"; but rather than pointlessly processing through the streets of London or New York and American companies boasting about supporting them; both sets would do the world a far better favour by campaigning against those fascist governments who treat anything not "pure" heterosexuality as a wilful choice and serious, even capital, offence.

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(Homosexual acts between men, but not women, were made illegal in Britain in the 19C, and this cruel and ignorant law was not repealed until the early 1960s. Two important figures who were pointlessly imprisoned under it were the playwright Oscar Wilde, and the code-breaking mathematician Alan Turing. Ironically, Turing's work was vital in defeating the Nazi empire that was trying to exterminate not only Jewish but also coloured, Romany, mentally-ill and homosexual people - all human beings but Adolf Hitler regarded them all as defective untermensch ("sub-human").

It is now illegal for companies in the UK to discriminate against anyone on religion, race or sexuality, and on mental or physical disability where the applicant for the post could still perform the work. I think this modern anti-prejudice law was by EU Directives, so most European nations will have similar laws.)