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I had a disturbingly realistic nightmare this morning.

I don't know why these dreams always involve my friend Brian, but they do. I think maybe it's because I spent so long trying to convince him of what Donald Trump really is, and he refuses to see it. I showed him a link to the most incriminating document I could find: https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf

All he ever did was tell me that Trump said he wasn't going to implement it.

Anyway, enough background. The dream.

It was an unspecified time in the future. The police or ICE or someone had been to my house before the dream began, and informed me that I was to be arrested and deported for homosexual activity. For some reason, they had chosen to let me call a few people to get my affairs in order. Brian was the first person I called.

He didn't believe me, of course. Those types never do. At first he was convinced I was pranking him, and because it was a dream and I do not have any inhibitions in dreams, I started yelling at him, telling him again that it was absolutely happening. His response was to say, "They can't do that, that's unconstitutional!" I told him his actions had led to a regime that was fully convinced they could do that. He said he didn't vote in the last election (which is true, because he had finally started losing faith in Trump, but he was terrified of Kamala being elected). This was my response:

"I told you they were going to do it! I warned you! I even showed you documentation of what their plan was, and you called me a liar! I showed you Project 2025, and you said he wasn't going to implement it, even after admitting that he lies about everything! And now he's doing what I told you he was going to do! But hey. At least you didn't get the black lady who laughs a lot. Because THAT would have been a disaster!"

That was where I woke up, because I really didn't want the dream to cut to where I was sent to a hellish third world concentration camp.
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@specman says
They are given a chance to tell ice their status and prove it.

Wouldn't it be nice?? That's not how ICE is operating.

A U.S.-born citizen who was wrestled into the dirt, handcuffed and detained in a vehicle as part of an immigration raid had a REAL ID on him that was dismissed as fake, the man's cousin said Friday.

Video of the arrest, aired by Noticias Telemundo, showed authorities grabbing Leonardo Garcia Venegas, 25, while at a job site in Foley, Alabama, on Wednesday and bending his arms behind him. Someone off-camera can be heard yelling, "He's a citizen."

Garcia told Noticias Telemundo that authorities took his ID from his wallet and told him it was fake before handcuffing him. REAL ID is the identification U.S. citizens are required by law to have in order to travel through airports and enter federal buildings. It is considered a higher security form of identification.

"Apparently a REAL ID is not valid anymore. He has a REAL ID," his cousin Shelah Venegas said. "We all made sure we have the REAL ID and went through the protocols the administration is asking for. ... He has his REAL ID and then they see him and I guess because his English isn't fluent and/or because he's brown it's fake, it's not real."

The guy was "detained," NOT arrested; that's due process. The guy who was "detained," @specman, had proof of citizenship and showed it but was ignored. Seems brownish skin and an accent negated his proof. SAD!!
bookerdana · M
They can't do that, that's unconstitutional!😀 Good luck with that ,even in a ream,,,its not funny but,I'm coming t get you bar- bara is 🚐a thing
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
Honestly that nightmare seems pretty realistic which are the worst ones to have. I hate those.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@LordShadowfire Or that you had a rainbow weapon in your dream that could fight back against terrorists. Like the rainbow weapon shoots acid colored darts or something lol
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@SatanBurger I had a follow-up dream where I had been abducted and taken to one of those pray away the gay camps. I was able to turn that one around, because I've seen enough slasher movies to know how to deal with bad camp counselors.
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specman · 51-55, MVIP
That would be a nightmare if it came to that. Hopefully they will just deport violent offenders that are illegal.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@specman
what about illegal don’t you understand?
And what about due process do you not get? Even if someone is here without a work visa, green card, gold card, or whatever, there are often extenuating circumstances, and refusing to allow them due process is still unconstitutional. That is the point everybody's been trying to make with you.
@specman Need to see what SCOTUS has ruled??
Shaughnessy v. United States ex rel. Mezei, 345 U.S. 206, 212 (1953); see also Mathews v. Diaz, 426 U.S. 67, 77 (1976) ("There are literally millions of aliens within the jurisdiction of the United States. The Fifth Amendment, as well as the Fourteenth Amendment, protects every one of these persons from deprivation of life, liberty, or property without due process of law."); Plyler v. Doe, 457 U.S. 202, 215 (1982) (holding that unlawfully present aliens were entitled to both due process and equal protection under the Fourteenth Amendment).

Here's a bit more from Mathews v. Diaz 1976 including citations of prior rulings.
There are literally millions of aliens within the jurisdiction of the United States. The Fifth Amendment, as well as the Fourteenth Amendment, protects every one of these persons from deprivation of life, liberty, or property without due process of law. Wong Yang Sung v. McGrath, 339 U. S. 33, 339 U. S. 48-51; Wong Wing v. United States, 163 U. S. 228, 163 U. S. 238; see Russian Fleet v. United States, 282 U. S. 481, 282 U. S. 489. Even one whose presence in this country is unlawful, involuntary, or transitory is entitled to that constitutional protection. Wong Yang Sung, supra; Wong Wing, supra.

Even one whose presence in this country is unlawful, involuntary, or transitory is entitled to that constitutional protection.

Thank you, SCOTUS for being clear, unambiguous, and leaving zero wiggle room.
specman · 51-55, MVIP
@ElwoodBlues I’m going to leave this post alone.

 
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