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The Gender Debate

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It’s become an “article of trans faith” that there are “exactly 73 genders”, says Mary Wakefield in The Spectator. The fastest-growing subset is said to be “xenogender” – people who feel “more akin to animals or plants or foods than humans”. There’s a girl on TikTok who explains very seriously that her gender is “bird” – specifically a cardinal, with “ey/em” pronouns. There’s a horse child who is taken out by school staff for gallops; “a boy dinosaur who is fed on strips of meat”. I’ve also found several people who “identify as cake”. There is some disagreement in the community about how it feels to be cake, but in general I gather it’s a sort of “sweet, fluffy feeling; a lightness”. “No one who’s cake-gender can have tasted a cake I’ve baked.”
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specman · 51-55, MVIP
I identify as the president of the United States! But they don’t acknowledge me as the president in dc. Gee! I wonder why? I guess because I really ain’t the president! I just keep telling myself that!
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@specman I'm more than happy to discuss this with you if you want to have a serious conversation. But it looks to me as though you just want to sit there and make transphobic jokes.
@LordShadowfire I'll talk to anyone about this if they're being good faith, but I tried with him and he just kept repeating that men can't be women over and over.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@BohemianBabe Oh. Pity.
specman · 51-55, MVIP
@LordShadowfire I’m afraid it would be a waste of your time. No matter what you have to say about it. I’m still going to think it’s wrong. I don’t even agree with them wanting people to use certain pronouns with them. I believe that is a confirmation of what their trying to be and I feel like that is a violation of our own personal beliefs. I’m not perfect. I never claimed to be. I believe in Jesus and God and the Holy Spirit. I really don’t follow any Church. I have in the past though. I don’t believe that you have to go to church. But I do believe in the Bible. It is a book full of love and forgiveness but it also states what is wrong. God loves every but he hates the sin. I do try to love everyone but I don’t have to love or like their actions. I am not a sinless person. I have and do sin. I pray all the time for the forgiveness of my sins. But long story short I stick to the beliefs I have and I will continue my journey which is full of sin and forgiveness. With all that being said I will still befriend a homosexual if they can deal with me not condoning their sexual actions. I love the person not their action. Like I said I do fall short often and that makes me unpredictable.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@specman So, your mind is just completely shut to new information. Got it.
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specman · 51-55, MVIP
@LordShadowfire I guess if someone wants to do something it’s on them. I wouldn’t do it though.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@specman You're not open. You flat out told me you're not open. No amount of scientific data, medical studies, or anything else will convince you that this is reality. Because you've already got your reality. You've got your Jesus Christ and your multi thousand year old mythbook, and anything else is just an abomination.
@specman Nobody is arguing that you need to be trans. The argument is that if someone wants to transition, they should be able to.
specman · 51-55, MVIP
I do not try to be a bad person. I’m actually quite nice in person. I am not as radical as I am here in fantasy world! It’s a place to go wild and identify ( yes I said identify) who ever you want to be to an extent. Cause truth be known we are all different on here than real life after all this is sw! Lol besides some of these people with their outrageous fetish’s can’t be real! Lol
specman · 51-55, MVIP
@BohemianBabe yes people can do whatever they want. They will too! I don’t like it rammed down my throat. No pun intended! Especially if I think it’s wrong and if it infringes on my rights
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@specman Nobody is infringing on your rights. Hate speech is not a right.
specman · 51-55, MVIP
@LordShadowfire freedom of speech. We came up with hate speech and hate crimes to
Pander certain people cause they say it only happens to them when they do the same things to the other people and suddenly it’s not a hate crime or hate speech as long as the people that suffered did it. and then they included other things. I don’t believe in those laws. I feel it impedes my freedom of speech and it suppresses my own opinions
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@specman Nope. Hate speech isn't free speech, Sparky. If you don't believe me, try using racial slurs in public. And if you don't like having rules because of the people in the society in which you live, don't live in a society.
specman · 51-55, MVIP
@LordShadowfire that’s the way I believe. I wish the people who made that law believed to! They could of just moved on
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@specman Wish in one hand, shit in the other, and see which one fills up first. If you don't want to deal with the consequences of hate speech, maybe you should go live in the woods.
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LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@specman Okay, Hate Speech.
specman · 51-55, MVIP
@LordShadowfire what do you mean? I don’t actually say any hate speech in reality! Just hate thoughts! Lol
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@specman You already have, though
specman · 51-55, MVIP
@LordShadowfire on here.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@specman Yeah.
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specman · 51-55, MVIP
@LordShadowfire sometimes I do get a little raunchy