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Education should teach the youth of today to honour any agreement they voluntarily entered into. Not unlearn it.

I have just visited my cousin and her daughter who is a student is excited because in America all the student debt has been hand waved away.

This is a very alarming president and I tried to tell Anne that this sets a bad example to the young who are just entering the work place. Being absolved of important formal agreements does not foster an environment where diligence, back bone and general good work ethic are fostered.

She then started spewing a tirade of reactionary progressive clap trap that she can only have picked up at university. This was startling because she is only studying Art History so I thought she would be insulated from this kind of indoctrination.

What is strange is that she gets so emotive about this but despite herself having just finished her 1st year,she hasn't herself received any external financial assistance so this issue doesn't affect her at all.

This is another issue that is very concerning with modern education; it is almost cult like how they make the young care about things that have no effect on them and often these things in question were unknown to them before they were removed from their parents vigilance.

She then saw that she had made me quite upset and so tried to offer apologies but I decided to leave. On my ride home she sent me forlornly reticent texts but when I saw that she uses pictures and abbreviations, I decided it would not be worth my time engaging with her.
SkeetSkeet · 100+, F
In another 5 years you'll be senile and forced to live in a nursing home. None of this will all matter.
CestManan · 46-50, F
@SkeetSkeet You are f'ing ruthless. I love it. 😁
LadyGrace · 70-79
@SkeetSkeet Well thank you for that cheerful note this morning. 😂 But you don't know that. And at 76, I certainly don't feel that way. I have many other options and my family cares about me and would take me in, in a heartbeat even right now, but I do not want to put that on them. I love my Independence and I love learning and growing and I feel just as youthful as I did when I was in my twenties. I keep my mind sharp and study things, learn new things everyday, and trust that God will give me the strength to do many more things before I kick the bucket. 😂 In fact I know He will, because He has brought me through many difficult situations.

A lot of people think, like you, that just because some are old, they have no life, but nothing could be further from the truth. Life is what you make it and you don't have to settle. Depends on your frame of mind. Whether you think you can or you think you can't, you're right!

I'm enjoying my life far more than I did any other time in my life. There is no such thing as "time" for me. Everything is calm, I've learned what matters and what doesn't, that no one could judge my value or worth, I can come and go as I please and hang out with whom I please and not put up with a bunch of bull.

I love my Independence. I can do with my time what I please and no one else to answer to and I don't have time to judge other people or worry about what they are, or are not, doing. I believe our life is more beautiful and happy when we help others. Life is beautiful when you take the time to look at all your blessings and what you're thankful for. And if there is ever a time that I don't have a choice but to go to a nursing home, I will make the best of it and make lots of new friends and still help others. Even more opportunities will open up for me and I'll have time to come places like here and help others. This is what I love to do. That's what makes life rich, valuable, and happy. No complaints here!
Elessar · 26-30, M

Maybe you old f*cks living life in easy mode should shut up once in a while?
Elessar · 26-30, M
@MsBellows The student is a taxpayer too (or will be soon). The world doesn't revolve around your individual needs, it revolves around the needs of the society as a whole, education being (a critical) one. As someone else told you on here, chances are that soon enough you'll be a patient in a nursing home. Shall we defund such facilities too, just because a sizable proportion of the population isn't anywhere old enough to need one for the next decade or two?

No, the fact that you're older and have allegedly paid more in taxes *so far* doesn't give you any greater rights or privileges whatsoever.
MsBellows · 61-69, F
@Elessar Yes I'm quite sure the butcher's son who's been perpetually singularly- always- an idle dreamer (the boy in question did A level Theatre Design, Politics and Home Economics (ie cooking)) will be a great success now that he's studying Media Studies at Polytechnic university and not only will he pay me back in a timely fashion he will also enrich and save the very culture around us all.


Everything above was sarcasm. I know it's the lowest form of wit but one feels obliged to reserve their premium wit for those who do not resort to banal regurgitated arguments and slogans that they picked up from a YouTube video.

The Polytechnic isn't officially a Polytechnic now by the way. They changed it a few years ago in a lame effort to seem a bit more 'red brick'. But they're not fooling anyone and the establishment in question is really a way for those who'd like to defer getting a job for a few years have a prolonged and unwholesome jolly at the tax payers expense.
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in America all the student debt has been hand waved away.

Bullshit. That is wrong.
MsBellows · 61-69, F
@SomeMichGuy I cannot comment on the educational situation in the United States but in GB, it has been wrong for many decades.
@MsBellows No, the "facts" are wrong.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
That's the problem with liberal university education. It does widen your mind and cultivate compassion and a social conscience among the impressionable young 🙂 A troubling modern tendency indeed 🤣
@SunshineGirl 👏👏👏

Damn liberals! Opening people's minds to try to understand the problems of others. Compassion, selflessness, understanding...sheesh! Trying to be all Good Samaritan-y and help others even when they are half-way around the world!

Jesus, who do they think they are?
LadyGrace · 70-79
I agree that if a person signs for a loan, they are definitely responsible for it. Your daughter heard your message but then she needs time to think about all that you told her and absorb all that and when she tried to make up, you just turned away from her. Where's the forgiveness here? You were supposed to be the adult here and then you run off like an angry kid, to punish her. By doing so, you just ruined everything you were trying to teach her. Have a heart. She got the message, so give her some slack. Just because she communicated with you with pictures and abbreviations, you said me decide it's not worth your time engaging with her. Unbelievable.
SW-User
Helping students with their loans is better than helping other countries buy weapons to commit war crimes against their civilians.
CestManan · 46-50, F
@SW-User Of course there isn't much outcry when the govt does stuff like that.
SW-User
@CestManan Exactly, it’s only billions of dollars. No big deal. 🙄😂😂😂
Oster1 · M
@SW-User 1.7 trillion, estimate.
KiwiDan · 31-35, M
🇰🇵 tovarisch, loans are the tool of the bourgeoisie to leech from the poor like the parasites they are.
eMortal · M
I have a very short solution. Compound Interest should be illegal when it comes to loans.
@eMortal The US gov't used to provide loans at lower, fixed interest rates.
SW-User
She then started spewing a tirade of reactionary progressive clap trap that she can only have picked up at university.


Um, what? And I thought the idea that Universities are creating liberals was crazy, now this. 😂
@SW-User reactionary & progressive?! lol
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Quetzalcoatlus · 46-50, M
What about all those PPP loans that were waved away? Where was your outrage then?
MsBellows · 61-69, F
@Quetzalcoatlus My University education was not contingent upon any sort of loan so it would have been incongruous to manifest even indignation.
BackyardShaman · 61-69, M
So perhaps you should kidnap your cousins and keep them from learning anything other than yiur own views.
MrAverage1965 · 61-69, M
This is a very narrow minded view.
The world changes and sometimes arrangements have to change as a result.
Northwest · M
in America all the student debt has been hand waved away.

Absolutely not true. Not even close.
SW-User
We should care about this things that happen, even if they don't affect us
All of it? I thought it was just a portion.
MsBellows · 61-69, F
@Spoiledbrat that's a relief then. I do hope the portion is small. However, if you give a certain type of person an inch, they take a mile.
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