Thoughts on Veganism?

If god didn’t want me to eat cows he wouldn’t have made them so yummy

Well see I was trying to be vegan but failed for a lot of reasons, so I'll argue my old points on this one from my point of view about what I researched and why I'm not vegan necessarily:

https://sustainablefoodtrust.org/articles/claims-against-meat-fail-to-see-bigger-picture/

[quote]I’ve lost count of the number of food campaigners who’ve told me that all we need to do to make food production sustainable is to stop eating meat. Really? What about the environmental impact of palm oil, soya bean oil, rape oil and even sunflower oil production; the over-enrichment of the environment from nitrogen fertiliser; the decline in pollinating insects; the use of pesticides with known harmful impacts that would have been banned years ago were it not for the fact that intensive crop and vegetable growers can’t produce food without them?

What also about the growing problem of soil degradation, not just in the countries from which we import food, but right here in the UK? Environment Secretary Michael Gove himself has warned that we are 30-40 years away from running out of soil fertility on large parts of our arable land. With only minor exceptions, soil degradation is not a problem on UK grasslands.

Contrary to popular belief, continuous crop production is not sustainable. That’s the mistake made by the Sumerians 5,000 years ago in what is now Iraq, and the Romans in North Africa 2,000 years ago, and in both cases the soils have never recovered. Far from abandoning livestock farming on UK grassland, we actually need to reintroduce grass and grazing animals into arable crop rotations. Despite the drop in demand for red meat in the UK (beef consumption down 4% and lamb consumption down more than 30% since 2000), at least one leading conventional farmer has now publicly recognised the agronomic need for grazed grass breaks. Even before there has been any encouragement in policy, I am aware that some arable farmers are already being forced to re-introduce grass and livestock because they can no longer control arable weeds like blackgrass, sterile brome and couch (twitch), which have become resistant to the in-crop herbicides repeatedly applied to them in all-arable rotations.[/quote]

retards. hypocrites. Believe that simply because they don't eat meat, that they don't use things made from animal by-products when nothing could be further from the truth.

Well, I understand your point here. Only thing I have to disagree with is that humans and animals are equal. We are similar to animals but humans are the superior beings. The philosophical reason is that humans are the only beings that are capable of making free decisions based in reason and will, due to this they are held to standards of morality in which they make judgments of right or wrong. An animal can not be held to this type of standard because they don’t possess the higher order of spirituality needed to be human. For example, if a dog gets out and bites somebody, no one blames the dog, they blame the owner of the dog because the dog could not have known better. The line between human and animal should not be crossed. In history, the primary way to oppress other human begins was to reduce them to animal status so that they will not feel guilty about what they do to others.

[quote]They are proven to be sentient...[/quote]

I agree with you totally. unlike most meat eaters who get all defensive and insulting when confronted with all the arguments proving that veganism is better , I am someone who first tries to see things clearly. I am a meat eater and I am aware that it makes no sense and slowly I am cutting out animal products from my life. its not because I eat meat that it must be the right thing to do, I am aware that eating meat contradicts my love for animals and the planet and being aware of this contradiction within me will eventually lead me to finding a lifestyle that makes more sense.

Just a choice, like any other... I'm not vegan, because I don't care about animals. I like the taste of meat :D

The nonsense they tell children these days. Must be sponsored by the tofu foundation.

Animals are sentient?

more real food for me.

Mike Tyson became a vegan. I eat a lot of vegetables and hardly any meat but fish in the main..kinda borderline vegetarian lol. But yeah I think it's a choice thing. Eat what makes u feel good. Consciously.

I'm vegan. Will be 3 years in July. I was vegetarian for 4.5 years before that. I don't want to contribute to the slaughter of any animals.

I have no arguments for or against.
It’s food.
Eat what you like.

Honestly, I’ve never criticized what others chose to eat, so I needed neither an epiphany of my own nor any reason to debate others. I eat what I choose, which rarely but occasionally includes meat. And when vegans come to visit they are served vegan meals at my table. They don’t have to defend anything to me, but they don’t preach to me either.