For those who don't know, atheism is the lack of belief, belief has nothing to do with it

@Llort If you read her post it clearly states:

a·the·ism
ˈāTHēˌizəm/Submit
noun
disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.


Why be an ass?

Because the header as apposed to the quote.... "Belief has nothing to do with it"

And personally I think being an ass is popping up and calling other people names. Bit what do I know... I'm just a Satanist who spells my name backwards

@Llort Belief and trust are not the same thing in a separate sense. 2+2=4 is a fact, so is the composition of atoms in everything around us. Claiming that magic could change everything, and physics, chemistry etc, is a belief equating to a book of subservience and life after death is illogical. One you can see, and measure. While the other takes cherry picking, trust in what you can't see, for moral dessert that you'll live forever.

sure...learn logic

How's that for a defition... Learn Google before you try learning logic

@Llort Again. Don't be an ass.

@Llort Believing' is something atheists don't do, dear god seriously? This was all about theists being a part of the debate, therefore belief does have something to do with it? Specifically Belief in god or gods has nothing to do with belief in atheism. Of course the second definition of belief I agree with what the fuck

Look at the definition...your belief, your faith.. is the same thing as what you trust... Ffs.. you can't prove that particals even exist.. look to the double slit experiement.

Truth is impossible... Beliefs are endless... All beliefs require a leap of faith . Not all leaps are equal...

Youre a new athesists through and through .. the four horseman of the atheist appocolopies is literally spewing out if you..

I don't hate you, but I hate them. They preach as much of a belief system as the fucking pope.

Try symantics all day, but you can't rewrite thousnads of years of thinkers. Faith, belied, trust.... They are interchangeable. You trust that ground is real? Then you have a belief in it.

@Llort Alright, I don't have the turn of phrase skills for this so here
"You are confusing the fact that atheists can have other beliefs for atheism being a belief. Without theism, there cannot be atheism or agnosticism because these address only one claim and that is the claim that magical super beings exist. This is a very unbelievable claim, yet there are theists who find evidence and reasons to form a belief that these magical super beings exist. Atheists are people who don't agree with the theists interpretations of the evidence or their reasoning and cannot "share their belief", we lack their belief. It does not matter if most atheists believe in natural solutions because of a long history of nothing but natural explanations. We have never had a magical explanation that stuck and did not eventually get replace by a natural explanation. Because we do not know the future, maybe one day we will finally discover real magic and atheists can become agnostic of magical super beings, but until that day theists are just playing a game of make believe." from [b]SBR32277[/b]

A naturalist I guess 🤷‍♀️

@Llort I found this to be funny

Mary: "Bigfoot exists".
Christian: "I don't accept that, as you have no evidence it does".
Mary: "So, you have a belief that BigFoot does not exist?"
Christian: "No, I DON'T have a belief it DOES."

Mary: "Are you are in the religion of Not Believing in BigFoot?"
Christian: "Are you a complete moron?"

[b]SupaStar[/b]

@Llort Belief of what you've seen to be real since you were born does not justify belief in god. Nor is it an argument against atheism. Since atheism is the lack of belief in god or gods

Jesus fuck your still going.

You have no idea what is real around you. Truth is simply impossible. The most likely theory on existence is simulation theory. Even trusting what you think is real is truley real is a belief in and of itself.

My attack is not on your brand of atheism, but more on the terminology. It's an easy hole to poke in new athiest' beliefs. That it is in fact a belief system. That you cannot remove faith from science. That you chose to believe your senses.

These aren't bad things. In fact, I admire most poeple for at least having an opinion. Personally, I feel it's all garbage. Your belief in the void of some super being is the same in my eyes as the belief in some super being. It's all pointless nonsense, and arguing or claiming knowledge about such a topic isn't just futile; it's relatively childish. But please continue to hold onto some feeling that you understand some bigger picture. I'd rather just accept I don't know shit. Especially if it means choking down narrative just to regurgitate it in a bunch of different ways that arent directed at the conversation.