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ArishMell · 70-79, M
I don't understand "Smash or Pass?" - is it a game? - but I do not believe that photograph.
popmol · 22-25, M
@ArishMell it's a game, but its similar to tinder, you don't like someone pass, you would fck them smash. it's often done in a list style with a bunch of things after each other.
theres a similar of fuck marry kill, where you get 3 characters and need to choose which one to kill, to fuck and kill.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@popmol I'm afraid you've lost me among all that slang and swearing, and I've not heard of "tinder", but it all sounds very aggressive! :-)
popmol · 22-25, M
@ArishMell tinder is a dating app, where you swipe left or right depending on if you like a person or not. thats how a bunch of modern teens and adult often get dates nowadays. (my apologies i had not looked at your age so might be confusing)

like for example you get a list of your favourite characters from a tv show, then you ask for each smash or pass, then you say pass or smash, smash if you want relations with them.

the fuck marry kill is a variation where instead of one by one you would give 3 characters. then choose one for each. (it sounds violent but isn't, the kill is reserved for those you like least)
and fuck in this context is the word for sexual activities not the curse word.

an example would be (if you know friends the tv show) the 3 male leads are joey chandler and ross.
now i would kill ross as yes he could give me a good life if i married him but it would also be very boring.
chandler is funny and would enjoy the married life with him and joey is the one who always makes the sex jokes and is known for his prowess so i would have sex with him.

that's the explanation 🧐
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@popmol Thank you!

I had heard of Tinder but had not realised the link here as I'd not known its strange lingo, which even if not trying to be aggressive doesn't seem very romantic!

I've also heard of Friends but never seen it. I've no TV but would not watch soaps anyway.
popmol · 22-25, M
@ArishMell It is not romantic, its just an easy way to communicate in modern times as the potential partner pool has widened due to more communication and travel options.

it is also often regarded as a meat market, as you can write what you like and such but often people are liked based on looks. so unattractive people often don't find it useful.
it's also used to gain sex, so some use it more as a finding sexual partner app.

but due to the fact that just walking up to someone and flirting is such a dangerous and scary thing it makes sense that a bunch of people went to this way of doing it.

well not exactly what a soap entails but if its the same as a sitcom then yes it's not for you then!
well i know some old programs but not old enough to be in your age range of programs you might have watched! 🤪
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@popmol Soap operas are not the same as situation-comedies although some series of the latter may have long-running narratives in them.

I don't follow soaps, and don't have a TV anyway, but do know something of both from watching at my parents' or girl-friends' homes. My mother also listed to [i]The Archers[/i] soap serial on the radio.


Soap-operas often have long stories on very difficult areas of human relationships. They may well have humour in them but are not written primarily for laughs, as is a sit-com. Though some of BBC TV's best sit-coms also held long, more serious background narratives; and one or two finished the very last episode not with a belly-laugh but sudden, powerful dramatic pathos.

The genre was invented in the USA within a soap-manufacturer's TV or radio advertising campaign, hence the name; but the world's longest-running "soap" now is on the wireless, and British.

It is BBC Radio Four's [i]The Archers[/i], started in the late-1950s, set in a fictional English Midlands village, and broadcast each weekday evening. One famous, recent story line covered in a realistic time-span, a couple going through what in UK law is now the offence of "coercive and controlling behaviour". While back in the 1990s I think, ITV's [i]Coronation Street[/i], set in a Northern English town and initiated round about 1959, held a story noted for its sensitivity about what is often now called "assisted dying" (I think of an elderly, ill woman by her closest, life-long friend).

Hardly sit-coms, then despite humour elsewhere in these dramas.


On the other hand, when still living "at home", my parents and I enjoyed [i]Only Fools and Horses[/i]. This simple sit-com with a different, humorous story in each episode covered from series to series the lives of the characters in greater depth, with the two leading men finding their wives and eventually becoming fathers.

Hardly soap-opera but having a straightforward soap-opera element beyond the comedy.


So I am not sure how either genre can be compared to a rather sleazy, on-line dating service.

But as you know, dating services are not new, and I suppose there were past ones that were as much or more overtly sexual than romantic / companionship in nature.

It is only the media that have changed.
popmol · 22-25, M
@ArishMell i see!

so is doctor who also a soap?

i feel like they mix a lot more, as most sit comes now often have overall narrative lines and stories! just in a weekly formula!


haha i wasn't comparing them to a sleazy on line dating service, i hoped you would have seen the sit com "friends" as it was highly influence and popular and used their characters as examples!

ooh yeah not new, but way easier then old ones where you fill in a form and get manually linked, now its app download and done!

well in america theres certainly more sensationalism!
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@popmol Ah, I don't know the shows you mention. I have heard of [i]Friends[/i] and I think it was or is [i]broadcast[/i] in the UK but I have never seen it. Interesting though that your sit-coms do have more continuing narratives.

Years ago I bought an English dating magazine called [i]Matchmaker[/i], a postal service but I think it started to go on-line. It held hundreds of ads in each copy but was a complete mix-up of men and women seeking each other or their own sexes, some wanting romance, some obviously only wanting sex, and was expensive to use. It became so bad I abandoned it.

That was when some newspapers regularly had "Lonely Hearts" advertisements, originally using postal responses then moving to very costly, Premium-Rate telephone systems. Those have probably all been pushed out of business by Internet-only companies. You still see very occasional lonely-hearts ads in the newspapers, though.

A lot of the [i]Matchmaker[/i] advertisers were women living in Africa or Eastern Europe, obviously wanting marriages-of-convenience to help them emigrate to Britain. There were also, surprisingly, quite a number of female prisoners in America; and it was difficult to work out why they were seeking men via a magazine in Britain.
popmol · 22-25, M
@ArishMell something like 2 and a half men and others have over arching stories or at least character arcs often, these days at least.

ooh dear it sounds awful to manage!

ooh we have adds in our but they are for physical places and their websites!

well thats interesting! mail in brides or american prisoners! i would pick a prisoner depending on what the crime was!
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@popmol Apart from those very brief attempts with that magazine and newspaper ads I have always avoided dating services. The phrase "character arc" had not been invented but obviously it was up to the respondent to seem interesting and genuine.

I did meet one of my girlfriends through her ad. in the local newspaper but otherwise soon came to see these services as cynical and exploitative, especially once they moved to big telephone and Internet agencies.

The telephone ones were automated. They would first play a long recorded message about themselves before starting the advertisements, at about a minute each, so at £1 or more a minute for the entire call, they soon racked up big bills. It was easy money for the companies offering a service needing little work to establish and run, and for which no guarantee is possible.

The prisoners rarely if ever admitted their crimes. Some might simply have wanted pen-friends, but others seemed to want future partners. I am though, very suspicious of their motives.

A lot of the foreign advertisers were marriage-of-convenience traps but others probably just fraudsters, whatever their nationality.

One type of fraud plaguing dating services and their customers, is particularly cruel. The advertiser, of either sex (if real at all) grooms the lonely respondent into a false sense of security. Then come requests to send air-fares for a meeting, then plaintive requests for example to send money for Mum's hospital treatment that has unexpectedly delayed the flight.... By the time the victim has realised the reality, he or she has been fooled into paying a lot of money to an outright, unidentifiable liar and thief.