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It's not heroic, it's damn right stupidity.

I honestly think that all those branding people transphobic, for simply having a opinion or view on the contraversy surrounding the community, are simply justifying their grotesque behaviour.

There's is no justification for it, they know it, so they attack anyone who doesn't agree.

Dangerous game to play if they can't see the damage being done and choose to protect those responsible for the atrocities that are going on.
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JakeSetto · 22-25, M
I would just like to point out, that by using words like "grotesque behavior", "no justification", "damage", and "atrocities" in reference to a group of *PEOPLE* who are really not harming a single person... could easily be considered... and i'm using your own words here... "attacking" people who don't fit into your closed off world view.
Purplerain78 · 46-50, F
@JakeSetto So basically you're denying it goes on?
JakeSetto · 22-25, M
@Purplerain78 Denying that what goes on?

That trans people exist? No you're trying to do that.

That your feelings are hurt? No... they are, it's a fact.
Purplerain78 · 46-50, F
@JakeSetto I'm fully aware they exist, I have no issues with the trans community generally. What I do take issue with is the ignorance from people such as yourself who believe that the whole community are sacred. That some haven't groomed children, exposed themselves to them at pride parade, or that trans women haven't attacked women. That's a dangerous outlook to have! My point.
JakeSetto · 22-25, M
@Purplerain78 Not a single person... literally ever, has denied that. You even used the key word in your own message, "some". If you are going to throw accusations and generalizations at an entire community, that "some" has to be statistically higher than the general population, not lower.

It's well known that there are sick individuals who groom children. But the statistics... the FACTS show that it isn't trans people who are likely to do it. It isn't gay people, it's those in positions of power, and usually religious power at that. I'm not here condemning christians for that fact, but i feel like it's definitely something that should be discussed more.

On the topic of the pride parades. It hasn't ever been a child friendly event, like ever... But if you even gave it a minute of research, you would see everyone else within the community also condemning that behavior. Again, the actions of a very select few cannot be the blame of the entire community... The same goes for your last "point" nobody is defending behavior like that online. It just isn't happening, the ONLY situations in which trans women are encouraged to "attack" or "fight back" or "belittle" cisgender women is when they themselves have been attacked, or put down, or minimized. And in those situations it's justified, because again... with opinions, with freedom of speech, comes freedom to criticize. This is the real world, you can't have your cake and eat it too.
Purplerain78 · 46-50, F
@JakeSetto Of course it isn't the whole community, that groom children. However some have come on here and defended the fact some do commit these crimes, or they downplay it. There's no excuses for that. Women's rights have been fought for, for decades, yet now we have men claiming to be "all woman" when biologically they're not, and competing in women's sports putting them at a massive advantage. There are two sexes. There doesn't need to be 109 different genders, and children certainly don't need their minds distorted and innocence taken away by the few taking their beliefs living as men/women to the extremes. Yoo don't have to like my opinion, and call it bigoted if you wish. However the ignorance of those unwilling to see it from all perspectives is why there's a problem in the first place.
@JakeSetto
"Not harming"

Haha bs, they have no idea what the other person is feeling especially when they keep harassing, bullying and attacking plus threatening one person with a gang. That is bad and can maybe lead to that person wanting to kill herself or himself and what just for opinions!
@Purplerain78 Exactly
@JakeSetto Respect your Elders
JakeSetto · 22-25, M
@NativePortlander1970 I respect people who are deserving of respect. I have nothing but the utmost respect for my elders... who deserve it[i].

It genuinely baffles me that you don't understand that nothing in this world grants you immediate respect. I don't personally expect to be respected by everyone, or really anyone for that matter, because I understand that respect is [i]earned.
I find it funny that "my generation" is often criticized for being entitled, and feeling like we deserve respect for no reason, however in this hypothetical situation, who raised us to be this way? Who taught us that this is the way to live? Who set those expectations for us?

And before you say that I should respect peoples' opinions, I absolutely do... when those opinions aren't that an entire group of people shouldn't exist, or that they are an abomination, or that they are inherently predatory, or that they choose to live that way. Until a single one of those claims can be concretely proven, they aren't opinions, they are prejudices... which my moral compass (something that many of you lack) just won't allow me to stand by.
JakeSetto · 22-25, M
@PrincessRoarBuddy I wonder, is the "harassment", "bullying", "attacks", and threats coming out of nowhere? (Not that threats are warranted, but i'd be hard pressed to find anybody encouraging threatening someone on this side of the argument) Or are they in response to your "opinions". Your "opinions" that aren't based in fact, that are completely against self-expression for the sake of "it makes me uncomfortable", that are prejudiced against entire *protected* groups of people?

Notice how you pointed out that, "This is bad and can maybe lead to that person wanting to kill herself or himself..." What do you think happens to people when every day of their life, they are threatened, and bullied, and harassed, and attacked, and invalidated, for expressing themselves? Or for loving who they love? Or for dressing how they want to dress? All because they don't fit into YOUR religious view? You cannot throw stones from a glass house. Every time someone harasses someone, or tries to put them down for whatever reason, they open themselves right back up to it. That's the power of free speech baby, the freedom to criticize goes hand in hand. It's not the freedom to speak without consequence, it's the freedom to speak without prosecution.