A big part of society are transphobic but they think they aren't as long as they don't physically attack trans people

I've noticed that a large amount of people are pushing transphobic views but they claim it's not transphobic and that it is to help.

The true intention is probably to help, but fact is its transphobia to be against trans rights. Such rights as if your teenage child say they are trans, you dismissing it as a phase or immaturity, is transphobic. Whether you like it or not. It's classified as transphobic.

Think about it. Why would anyone feel good about their family or friends or strangers online minimizing their identity and their decision in who they are? They are the ones to decide about their body and who they are. Not you, not me, not their classmates, partner, siblings, parents, teachers, therapists. No one else but themselves decide over their body.

To respect that also automatically teaches kids that no one can claim their bodies or want something with their bodies. So if you wanna prevent grooming and predators, respect your kids identity, take them seriously, respect your kids. They're humans too.

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MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M

Phobia is a mental disorder diagnosed by psychologists, it is not something you just call anyone who disagrees with your decisions. We're not transphobic, we just don't like it.

helsbels · 31-35, F

@MartinTheFirst 👏👑

Queendragonfly · 31-35, F

@MartinTheFirst "Calling yourself man is just a label, calling yourself a man and using the men bathrooms is just you looking for attention, being a man isn't real, it's just some made up religion, but no I'm not phobic of men, I just don't like you"

Do you feel that I care for you, or that I hate you?

helsbels · 31-35, F

@Queendragonfly Yeah, but... you can see how that isn't the same, right? Because... he is a man. Not because he says so, or wears trousers or 'acts' like a man. The sex you are is not up for debate, it isn't a costume, it can't be changed. You can certainly 'present' as the opposite sex just like you can put feathers on your head and say you're a parrot but it doesn't mean you can fly!

Queendragonfly · 31-35, F

@helsbels I don't think someone has explained what transgender is to you. Let me introduce you to transgender.

When someone transition, mentally and or physically into another gender than what they were assigned at their birth.

This is not some joke, or some act, or religion or label or whatever negative views you have on it. It is 100% real. Serious and transgenders has always existed. It's not some new trend or phase or mood or whatever you wanna excuse your fears under. It is legit.

Do you know what transition means?
And I don't mean your feelings or fears or prejudices I mean the actual definition.

helsbels · 31-35, F

@Queendragonfly I do. And this is what always happens. I have not denied that trans people exist or should be accepted, but I have said that for example, in sport, changing their gender doesn't mean a male born person should be able to compete with women. And you are talking to me as if I am hateful or ignorant. Why do you not give my voice the same respect as trans people? It is too easy to say 'because it is transphobic'. Stop explaining 'trans' to me, and explain why you disagree with what I HAVE said, rather than what you think I mean.

MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M

@Queendragonfly Yes, "Man" is just a label, but it's a label that refers to our objective reality, meaning the physical nature of the universe that exists outside of our minds. It's the same way that we describe colors, we can all agree on a word to describe the colors in the universe, even though we could call them something else, because anything else would make it difficult to communicate. Disagreeing with calling a woman a "man" is equivalent to disagreeing with someone describing something red as "blue". It's not a phobia, it's just rationality.

Mentality is not generally seen as objective reality, as it's very dynamic, and therefore treated as something subjective.

MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M

@Queendragonfly Let me clarify that I do not dislike people if all I know about them is that they're trans.

Queendragonfly · 31-35, F

@MartinTheFirst So why do you dislike trans people then?

Queendragonfly · 31-35, F

@MartinTheFirst Du bor I Sverige, vi som toppar en av de mest jämställda landen.

MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M

@Queendragonfly What it means is that the fact that someone is trans on its own does not make me dislike a person.