I Am A Crossdresser And Our Numbers Are Growing, Join Us

@PinkStarburst 🤔 I'm not sure we can generalize on that, being that some groups have strict dress rules. There's also the topic of wether it counts as such being that you can get pants and other "masculine" garments on the female sections of a store, but I get your point.

@PinkStarburst If she dresses as a tomboy with the intent to look or be boyish then yes, Tomboys are cross dressers but women are much more organized than men and always will be as a group and so they forded this and made it a bit standard so few think that way of women cross dressers anymore. Even though they are.

@Elandra77 indeed some if not all of the items that could be considered "male attire" have been incorporated into the usual female wardrobe, the history of exactly how they were so is not really my strong suit, so how deep the role of "being organized" had in it is beyond me. Now I think that to be considered crossdressing it would have to come from a desire to look, feel, or be in contact with the masculine aspect of the garment, otherwise it's just a matter of it being generally more practical and comfortable, not really relating to gender at all.

@automx03 It's your post and I am not going to try to upstage you as that is not proper etiquette.

I started grade school in 1962. Giel shad to wear dresses or a blouse and skirt. No shorts, no sneakers, and they definately were not allowed jeaans as jeans we re NOT IN THE WOMEN's department until the late 70's! No women would be caught dead in jeans. That was male attire and were $4-5 a pair. Cheap. The ONLY girls that got a pas wearing jeans were farm girls and poor girls. Cutoff back them were male jeans cut off. So she had to buy them in the men's dept. In 1968 the women's liberation movement became loud and activists began to force changes. That fall in school the girsl came back as tomboys! Mo more dresses and no more skirts and blouses. And they wore sneakers that were men's. I know exactly when it started as I lived it.

And these girls were shedding their femininity! At least what they knew of it. It was a conscience effort to BE MALE because they COULD!

That same battle he is now facing now! BUT--feminists are FAR more organized than any make group is! Or will be. So he will have a much harder road than she did.

A pullover top or blouse wouod be as comfortable to him as her so the idea of wearing clothes for comfort does not equate. If she wear his clothes for comfort so should he wear her clothes for the same reason and it should be fine! It's not. He is held to a double standard while she gets a pass.

It began about gender and gender bending. But "Real Women" is not a slur as "Real MAn" is.

For a male cross dresser it IS about sex. it is about a taboo, a fetish, and a desire to be as a woman!

For her who is one is IS NOT about sex. She is not putting on his band tee and jeans and converse shoes. His belt, baseball hat and his jacket and then lying down as she brings her self to orgasm. not gonna happen! To her is IS about gender and not sex.

And what she can get away with!

however you are allowed to you rown opinion.

@Elandra77 I can only thank you for your thorough account of the process, it's always a pleasure to learn, specially when it comes from the source. I particularly loved the example on that last bit making the point about it being about gender instead of sex. Again, thanks for putting it all so neatly, I hope that gets read by all in the group 🤗.

@automx03 I am all for pride butt I am NOT a crossdresser. I am a transwomen and a translesbian. You will find the trans community has little love for drag Queens or cross dressers. One of you do this for money and then wash everything off and have no interest identifying as a woman. One does it as a fetish or kink-even dare and gets hard for a sexual release each time. They are weekend princesses or weeknight princesses. They may identify with the clothing but they also have little interest in living their life as a female and taking steps to make that happen so they are seen as one-legally -and in all possible ways.

Big difference.

However i am flattered that you liked my reply- one I have explained so many times over the past 40 years.