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Do you agree that there's more than 2 genders?

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butterflybaby75 · 46-50, F
Only two - girls born with girl bits and boys born with boy bits
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butterflybaby75 · 46-50, F
@Emosaur What I said *is* gender! The rest is something that happens after birth. Nobody is *born* other than 'girl' or 'boy' unless some genetic malfunction happens.
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LordShadowfire · 100+, M
@butterflybaby75 [quote]What I said *is* gender![/quote]
[big][c=800000]BZZZZT![/c][/big]
Gloomy · F
@butterflybaby75 Having this simplistic understanding of biology might be alright in elementary school but with the data available not anymore for a grown woman. I guess people cannot stand things not being as simple as they would like it to be.
Also Gender and sex are not the same.
CestManan · 46-50, F
@Gloomy One thing that is interesting is some people these days are SO sure of what a man or a woman is.

However, years before the transgender subject was even known to most, people used to wonder or argue over what was a "real" man. How often men were told they were not a "real man" because they were not fulfilling their masculine duties set up by society. Like taking care of his kids, holding down a job, whatever.

But TODAY if a genetic male presents as a woman and maybe transitions physically to appear as female, people loudly call this person "A man".

So it seems to me that if a man today is being told he is not a "real man" then all he has to do is put on a dress and some makeup THEN people will acknowledge his masculinity? 😄

The point is, no matter what gender label someone wants to claim, SOMEone out there is going to try to deprive them of it.

I also think that this might be the reason some people claim to be "non binary" so that way others can just draw their own conclusions.

Of course for the transphobes, nothing is going to be done to their liking.
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@butterflybaby75 Being born with girl bits or boy bits is your SEX.
How you identify after birth is your GENDER.
TheGreatestEver123 · 41-45, M
@SW-User I was born with one leg but I identify as a two-legged person. How many legs do I have?
SW-User
@TheGreatestEver123 Deflection noted. And you have one leg.
TheGreatestEver123 · 41-45, M
@SW-User so you are transphobic too then?
SW-User
@TheGreatestEver123 [quote]so you are transphobic too then?
[/quote]And how have you come to that conclusion?
TheGreatestEver123 · 41-45, M
@SW-User because you don’t accept that I have two legs even though that’s how I identify. If it’s transphobic to reject the claim that a biological male is actually female if that’s how they ‘identify’, why is my claim not valid?
SW-User
@TheGreatestEver123 Sure, whatever. I'm transphobic because I reject the fact you have one leg. Oh, and when did you decide you wanted to "trans" from one to two legs? It must have been a concious decision.
TheGreatestEver123 · 41-45, M
@SW-User yes, when I was a child I knew that I was actually a two-legged person so I wear a prosthetic leg in public and nobody can notice because I always wear jeans over it. So I have two legs, not one. And if you think I only have one leg, you are a Nazi, racist bigot.
SW-User
@TheGreatestEver123 Good for you :) Go ahead and call me a Nazi racist bigot if it makes you feel better. You have successfully deflected from the original topic about gender and sex, and have instead made it all about me; the typical Republican trope when they know they have been beaten :)
TheGreatestEver123 · 41-45, M
@SW-User Republican trope? I’m satirising the left wing response to all of this nonsense! It’s the left wing maniacs that call people racist, bigots, Nazis, fascists, transphobic just for pointing out basic facts and biology.

The fact you didn’t realise I was being ironic shows how deep in the left wing propaganda bubble you are.

And I’m not even a Republican. I’m actually mostly left wing in my views but I do understand the difference between fact and fiction.
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@TheGreatestEver123 Well, I apologise: it is very difficult to know online whether someone is being "ironic" or not.

But at the same time, there is no "left wing propaganda bubble" around the fact that sex and gender are different: sex is biological, gender is social.
TheGreatestEver123 · 41-45, M
@SW-User the problem is nobody can actually define what gender is other than some abstract, subjective idea of ‘identity’. It sounds meaningless.

When we are talking about ‘men’, ‘women’, pronouns, female spaces, sports, etc, these are separated by biological sex. It is biological sex that is put on birth certificates, passports etc. So why is there an attempt by the left to blur these definitions. They intentionally speak interchangeably between sex and gender in order to make the rest of us believe that sex and gender are the same.
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@FoothillsPatriot Nope, man and woman. Two Sexes. Fact.

50 genders, not including the hundred more that different cultures have been assigning for hundreds of years.. Here they are.

[b]1. AFAB[/b]
AFAB stands for ‘assigned female at birth’. It is a gender identity often assigned to people if there is for any reason a need to know a person’s birth gender, especially if that person no longer associates with that gender. It acknowledges that birth genders are assigned through cultural inscription.

[b]2. Agender[/b]
Agendered people do not have a gender. They are considered genderless or genderfree and do not fit on a masculine-feminine spectrum.

[b]3. Aliagender[/b]
Aliagendered people are neither male, female, or agendered. They are people who experience a gender identity that does not fit on the masculine-feminine spectrum but nonetheless feel a gendered identity.

[b]4. AMAB[/b]
AMAB stands for ‘assigned male at birth’. Like AFAB, it is a gender identity often assigned to people if there is for any reason a need to know a person’s birth gender, especially if that person no longer associates with that gender. It acknowledges that birth genders are assigned through cultural inscription.

[b]5. Androgynous[/b]
An androgynous person is neither male or female. Their identity is considered ambiguous. Often, androgynes express elements of both masculine and feminine identities at different times.

[b]6. Aporagender[/b]
Aporagender people are those who do not identify with any specific gender. They may feel that they have no gender, or that their gender is undefined. This can be due to a variety of reasons, such as feeling like one does not fit into any existing gender categories, or feeling like all existing gender categories are equally valid and none stand out as feeling more ‘right’ than the others.

[b]7. Bakla[/b]
Bakla are people from the Philippines who are effeminate biological men who dress and behave in ways traditionally associated with women. They are often seen as a third gender, distinct from men and women.

[b]8. Bigender[/b]
Bigender people experience two genders, either simultaneously or at different times. These genders can be any combination of male, female, agender, etc.

[b]9. Cisgender[/b]
A cisgendered person is a person who identifies with the same gender as the gender with which they were assigned at birth.

[b]10. Cis Female[/b]
A cis female is a female who was assigned the female gender at birth and continues to identify with that gender identity.

[b]11. Cis Male[/b]
A cis male is a male who was assigned the male gender at birth and continues to identify with that gender identity.

[b]12. Demiboy[/b]
A demiboy is a person who identifies as partially male. They may feel that they are neither fully male nor fully female, or that they are a mix of both genders. Demiboys may or may not undergo hormone therapy or surgery to change their bodies to match their gender identity.

[b]13. Demigender[/b]
Demigender people are those who identify as partially male or female. They may feel that they are neither fully male nor fully female, or that they are a mix of both genders.

[b]14. Demigirl[/b]
A demigirl is a person who identifies as partially female. They may feel that they are neither fully male nor fully female, or that they are a mix of both genders. Demigirls may or may not undergo hormone therapy or surgery to change their bodies to match their gender identity.

[b]15. Female[/b]
The traditional or conservative definition of “female” is a person who is biologically born with ovaries and typically has the capacity to produce eggs. Increasingly, we are defining a female as a person who identifies as a woman, regardless of their biological sex. This is because we’re moving toward separating the concepts of biological sex and culturally-defined genders.

[b]16. Femme
[/b]Femme is a term used to describe a person who identifies as a woman, and/or expresses themselves in a feminine way. Femme can be used as a noun, adjective, or verb. It is often used in the LGBTQIA+ community to describe a lesbian whose comportment is traditionally feminine.

[b]17. FTM[/b]
FTM is a term used to describe a person who was assigned the female gender at birth but identifies as a man. This acronym stands for ‘female-to-male.’

[b]18. Gender Apathetic[/b]
A person who is gender apathetic is someone who does not strongly lean towards identifying with one gender or another. Furthermore, they are often apathetic (or non-commital) about their attraction to one specific gender, meaning they are often bisexual.

[b]19. Gender Fluid[/b]
A person who is gender fluid may fluctuate between genders, or they may feel like they are a mix of both genders. In one context, they may identify more strongly as male, but in another context, they may identify more as a female. It is often very much context dependant and may change over time. This is different from being bisexual because gender fluidity is about gender identity, not sexual orientation.

[b]20. Gender Neutral[/b]
A person who is gender-neutral does not identify as either a man or woman. They may have a non-binary gender identity, or they may simply not identify with any gender, and reject the dualistic thinking of the male-female binary.

[b]21. Gender Nonconforming[/b]
A person who is gender non-conforming does not identify with the traditional gender roles assigned to their biological sex. They may

[b]22. Gender Questioning[/b]
A person who is gender questioning is someone who is exploring and questioning their own gender identity. This may be a person who is unsure if they are transgender, or it may be a cisgender person who is curious about what it would be like to experience life as the opposite gender.

[b]23. Gender Variant[/b]
A gender variant person is someone whose gender expression does not conform to traditional ideas about how men and women are supposed to look and behave. This could be a person who simply expresses their gender in a creative or non-traditional way.

[b]24. Genderqueer[/b]
Genderqueer is a term that describes people with non-binary gender identities. Genderqueer people may identify as neither male nor female, or they may identify as a mix of both genders. They may also use gender-neutral pronouns such as them/they, ze/hir, or xe/xem.

[b]25. Hermaphrodite[/b]
Hermaphrodite is an outdated and now generally disavowed term used to describe people who are intersex. Generally, this term is now strongly discouraged and often used to offend intersex people. The term intersex is now more acceptable.

[b]26. Intergender[/b]
Intergender is a term used to describe people who have both male and female characteristics, or who fall somewhere in between the two genders. Intergender people may identify as neither male nor female, or they may identify as a mix of both genders.

[b]27. Intersex[/b]
The term intersex describes people who are born with genitals or other sex characteristics that do not conform to normative definitions of ‘male’ or ‘female.’ Intersex people may choose to identify as male, female, or non-binary.

[b]28. Male[/b]
The term male is a term to describe cisgendered people who were assigned male at birth and embrace that identification for themselves. A male may or may not embrace traditional masculinity roles. In today’s society, there is a wide spectrum of ways to embody masculinity that can reject toxic masculinity performances of the past.

[b]29. Maverique[/b]
A maverique is a person who defies traditional gender roles and expectations. Maveriques may identify as being of their own gender, but not male or female. Unlike other classifications, maveriqes are not agendered as they believe them to be of a distinct gender that does not fit on a spectrum of male-female. They are often creative, independent thinker, and non-conformists.

[b]30. MTF (Male-To-Female)[/b]
MTF is a term used to describe a person who was assigned the male gender at birth but identifies as a woman. This acronym stands for “male-to-female.” A person who is MTF may choose to undergo hormone therapy and/or sex reassignment surgery to transition to living as a woman.

[b]31. Neither[/b]
People who identify as being of neither gender generally do not wish to be placed on a traditional gender spectrum or may identify as a third gender. ‘Neither’ as a gender designation is regularly used as a catch-all category on government forms for anyone who is not cisgendered.

[b]32. Neutrois[/b]
Neutrosis was a gender identity first described in 1995. It is made up of the french terms neutre, meaning “neutral” trois meaning “three.” It is used by people to explain that they are of a non-binary unidentified gender or no gender at all.

[b]33. Non-Binary
[/b]Non-binary is a term used to describe people who do not identify as exclusively male or female. Non-binary people may identify as being of multiple genders, no gender, or a third gender. Non-binary people may also use gender-neutral pronouns such as they/them/their.

[b]34. Novigender[/b]
Novigender can be used to describe people who find it difficult to describe or understand how they experience gender. Novigender people may feel like their gender is ever-changing or hard to pin down.

[b]35. Other[/b]
‘Other’ is a formal classification people can select on gender forms to indicate that they do not fit into a binary gender construction. It is often used on official government forms, similar to ‘Neither’. People who identify as ‘other’ may also feel as if there is not a word to describe their experience of gender.

[b]36. Pangender[/b]
Pangender is a term used to describe people who identify as multiple genders. Pangender people may feel like they are a combination of genders, or that their gender is constantly changing. It is often used to mean “all genders”.

[b]37. Polygender[/b]
Like pangender, polygender is a gender identity which refers to feeling multiple genders simultaneously or over time. Polygender people may feel like they are a combination of two or more genders, that their gender changes over time, or that they have no specific gender. Like many other non-binary identities, polygender is often seen as falling outside of the traditional

[b]38. Third Gender[/b]
The third gender is a concept in which individuals are categorized, either by themselves or others, as neither man nor woman. It is also used to describe those who do not fit into the traditional genders of male and female. Many non-western cultures have embraced multiple genders, undermining the cultural notion that there are just two genders.

[b]39. Tom And Dee Identities[/b]
Tom and Dee identities are those of people assigned male or female at birth, respectively, who identify as the opposite gender. For example, a person assigned male at birth who identifies as female would be considered a Tom identity. Likewise, a person assigned female at birth who identifies as male would be considered a Dee identity. These identities are named after the Tom and Dee characters in the children’s book The Gendered Society Reader. The book was written by two sociologists, Michael Kimmel and Amy Aronson, and it explores how gender impacts everyone’s lives, regardless of their assigned sex.

[b]40. Trans*[/b]
Transgender describes people whose gender identity does not match their assigned gender at birth. Often, we simply write Trans* (with an asterisk) in order to be more inclusive of all transgender people, including trans men and trans women.

[b]41. Transmasculine[/b]
Transmasculine people are people who are AFAB (assigned female at birth) but identify as masculine (they may be a masculine woman). It is used as a term that’s more specific than trans*, which could describe a wide range of gender identities.

[b]42. Trans Man[/b]
A trans man is a person who was assigned female at birth but identifies as a man. Trans men may or may not go through surgical transitions or take medications so their body matches their gender identity.

[b]43. Trans Woman[/b]
Trans woman people are people who are AMAB (assigned male at birth) but identify as a woman. They may or may not go through a surgical transition.

[b]44. Transfeminine[/b]
Transfeminine people are people who are AMAB (assigned male at birth) but identify as feminine (they may be a feminine man). Note that feminine and female are not the same, where feminine is a collection of behaviors while female is a gender identification.

[b]45. Transsexual[/b]
Transsexual is a term used to describe someone who has undergone a surgical transition to change their physical appearance to match their gender identity. This could include things like chest reconstruction (top surgery) or vaginoplasty (bottom surgery). Not all transgender people choose to have surgery, and not all who do identify as transsexual. The term is often considered outdated and offensive by many in the transgender community.

[b]46. Transsexual Female[/b]
A transsexual female is a person who was assigned male at birth but has transitioned to live as a woman. This could include undergoing surgery and/or hormone therapy to change their physical appearance. Not all transgender women identify as transsexual, and not all transsexual women undergo surgery.

[b]47. Transsexual Male[/b]
A transsexual male is a person who was assigned female at birth but has transitioned to live as a man. This could include undergoing surgery and/or hormone therapy to change their physical appearance. Not all transgender men identify as transsexual, and not all transsexual men undergo surgery.

[b]48. Travesti[/b]
Travesti is a Latin American term for people who were assigned male at birth but identify as a woman. They often live and work in all-travesti environments, such as nightclubs and brothels. They may or may not undergo hormone therapy or surgery to change their physical appearance.

[b]49. Trigender[/b]
Trigender is a gender identity that refers to people who experience three genders: male, female, and something else that is neither of those two. This third gender can be a combination of both male and female, somewhere in between the two, or something entirely different. Trigender people may identify as any combination of genders, including but not limited to: agender, bigender, genderfluid, or pangender. Not all trigender people experience the same three genders in the same way.

[b]50. 75. Two-Spirit[/b]
Two-Spirit Female is a term used to describe a Native American gender identity. Two-Spirit people are those who have both male and female spirits, and are often seen as having special powers as a result. It explains gender non-conformity in spiritual terms, seeing the person as having a spirit that spans traditional gender constructs.

FACT 🏳️‍🌈
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TheGreatestEver123 · 41-45, M
@SW-User complete total nonsense. Firstly, almost all of these have circular definition. Someone who is ‘a gender’ doesn’t have a gender, but none of them actually define what a gender is.

Also, many of them have definitions of someone ‘identifying as’ either male or female. But these are biological terms and you one’s personal identity makes no difference. I could identify as a 6ft 2in black woman. But it doesn’t make it true.
TheGreatestEver123 · 41-45, M
@FoothillsPatriot they are psychopaths. Notice how he says sex and gender are completely different but then uses them interchangeably? He talks about gender being assigned at birth as a cultural inscription even though it can be determined to 100% accuracy even before the baby is born.

These people are mental and have been doctrinaire by an obscure dogma. I actually feel a bit sorry for them.
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Peaceandnamaste · 26-30, F
@FoothillsPatriot I'm Native American and I consider myself Two spirited Bisexual. So you're being a bigot on here.