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SW-User
I agree that it's wound not a vagina, tits are fake etc. Does he pass, sure. I've said before there are trans women that could put real women to shame and a woman called me gay. 🤷. Whatever.
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Pikachu ·
@SW-User
By that logic any reconstructive surgery is a wound.
By that logic any reconstructive surgery is a wound.

SW-User
@Pikachu by that logic removing any normal functioning body part is reconstructive surgery
Pikachu ·
@SW-User
That sounds more like a knee jerk quip than a thoughtful rebuttal.
Using the logic that your position implies , a body part that was surgically restored or enhanced rather than grown from birth is a wound...
What logic do you think you're using to say that any functioning body part being removed reconstructive surgery? Can you be more specific and less quippy?
That sounds more like a knee jerk quip than a thoughtful rebuttal.
Using the logic that your position implies , a body part that was surgically restored or enhanced rather than grown from birth is a wound...
What logic do you think you're using to say that any functioning body part being removed reconstructive surgery? Can you be more specific and less quippy?

SW-User
@Pikachu That's your logic, you want me to explain your own stance?
Pikachu ·
@SW-User
It's not my logic.
Yes. Exactly. Because i want you to prove that you understand my logic and aren't just strawmanning it for a cheap rhetorical point.
Since we disagree, can you describe why you feel that your statement is representative of my logic...or was it indeed just a thoughtless retort?
Go ahead.
It's not my logic.
you want me to explain your own stance?
Yes. Exactly. Because i want you to prove that you understand my logic and aren't just strawmanning it for a cheap rhetorical point.
Since we disagree, can you describe why you feel that your statement is representative of my logic...or was it indeed just a thoughtless retort?
Go ahead.

SW-User
@Pikachu
Uhmm
It's not my logic
Uhmm
By that logic any reconstructive surgery is a wound.
Your logic. Your stance.
Pikachu ·
@SW-User
So i'm pointing out that by calling a reconstructed vagina a wound that same logic says that any reconstructive surgery is therefore a wound because it did now grow naturally.
Can you or can you not articulate why you feel that this same logic means that any functioning body part being removed is a reconstructive surgery?
Last chance to show me you're thinking and not just arguing...
So i'm pointing out that by calling a reconstructed vagina a wound that same logic says that any reconstructive surgery is therefore a wound because it did now grow naturally.
Can you or can you not articulate why you feel that this same logic means that any functioning body part being removed is a reconstructive surgery?
Last chance to show me you're thinking and not just arguing...

SW-User
@Pikachu it's not [re]constructed it's constructed. There is no disease, damage any abnormalities to warrant a reconstruction.
There's a gaping hole where there was non before and naturally the body tries to close that gap. That's a wound.
You can only reconstruct or restore that which was already there.
There's a gaping hole where there was non before and naturally the body tries to close that gap. That's a wound.
You can only reconstruct or restore that which was already there.
Pikachu ·
@SW-User
But someone born without a body part who receives surgery to construct that body part is receiving what would rightfully be called reconstructive surgery.
What's the difference?
But someone born without a body part who receives surgery to construct that body part is receiving what would rightfully be called reconstructive surgery.
What's the difference?

SW-User
@Pikachu The difference is the vagina isn't missing in this instance. It's not supposed to be there to begin with.
Pikachu ·
@SW-User
Of course it's missing.
She's a woman. She's missing a vagina from what amounts to a birth defect.
Of course it's missing.
She's a woman. She's missing a vagina from what amounts to a birth defect.

SW-User
@Pikachu No womb ovaries, xx chromosome, child bearing hips. It's a man.
Pikachu ·
@SW-User
No, it's a woman with a birth defect that has given her a male body.
No different than women with womb and ovaries born with an xy chromosome.
No different than women with xx Chromosome being born with internal testes and an enlarged clitoris.
But you say things like "it" when referring to a human being and insist on calling them men.
So the real issue here is the prejudice.
No, it's a woman with a birth defect that has given her a male body.
No different than women with womb and ovaries born with an xy chromosome.
No different than women with xx Chromosome being born with internal testes and an enlarged clitoris.
But you say things like "it" when referring to a human being and insist on calling them men.
So the real issue here is the prejudice.

SW-User
@Pikachu The only defect is the gaping whole between his legs. It's a man with a wound, not even a vagina after all that work.
Pikachu ·
@SW-User
*sigh*
And of course when the debate isn't turning out for you, you fall back on crudely repeating your defeated position as if that will disguise the fact that it was just dismantled before your eyes...
But i suppose prejudice is not dependent on logic.
Well i think this has gone as far as it can.
Better luck next time.
*sigh*
And of course when the debate isn't turning out for you, you fall back on crudely repeating your defeated position as if that will disguise the fact that it was just dismantled before your eyes...
But i suppose prejudice is not dependent on logic.
Well i think this has gone as far as it can.
Better luck next time.

SW-User
@Pikachu Debate isn't turning out for me? There's nothing to debate 😂🤣gosh!!
Pikachu ·
@SW-User
Oh, you weren't trying to make your case? That explains a lot 😂🤣
Oh, you weren't trying to make your case? That explains a lot 😂🤣

SW-User
@Pikachu How can you make a case against an argument that claims being born male is defect? 🤣😂🤷
Pikachu ·
@SW-User
TheManHimself: ThERe WaS No dEBatE bECAuse YuR WRonG!
lol you're new to this whole debate thing, aren't you?🤣😂
TheManHimself: ThERe WaS No dEBatE bECAuse YuR WRonG!
lol you're new to this whole debate thing, aren't you?🤣😂

SW-User
@Pikachu There was no debate because your logic is not just wrong it's stupid. 🤣😂
Pikachu ·
@SW-User
lol aaaand thanks for making my point 🤣😂😁
Like i said, better luck next time.
lol aaaand thanks for making my point 🤣😂😁
Like i said, better luck next time.

SW-User
@Pikachu With that logic you'll need it more than me 😂🤣💪
Pikachu ·
@SW-User
lol sure, because "Yur logic is stoopid" is such a strong argument.😂🤣 👏
I'm sure that'll work out for you...I have no more attention to give you😌
lol sure, because "Yur logic is stoopid" is such a strong argument.😂🤣 👏
I'm sure that'll work out for you...I have no more attention to give you😌

SW-User
@Pikachu That's not an argument 🤦never argue with a fool!! 🤣😂Gosh! Take care
Pikachu ·
@SW-User
Funny though how you did attempt to argue...and at length...until you found yourself outmatched and your argument dismantled at which point you fell back on simply repeating that i was wrong...
Odd that🤣😂😌
Ah but dang, now i've responded to you after i said i wouldn't so by the laws on internet you win lol
Oh well, hope you're better prepared next time 😁
Funny though how you did attempt to argue...and at length...until you found yourself outmatched and your argument dismantled at which point you fell back on simply repeating that i was wrong...
Odd that🤣😂😌
Ah but dang, now i've responded to you after i said i wouldn't so by the laws on internet you win lol
Oh well, hope you're better prepared next time 😁
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