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As a nation founded on Judeo Christian values, why does Catholicism have the majority of seats on the Supreme Court? We were not founded on Catholicism, we are Christians and Jews.
Umm the US is not a country based on any religion. That is a right wing fairy tale believed by people who failed high school history.
graphite · 61-69, M
graphite · 61-69, M
@Slade Everytime Pix tries to tell us he's not obsessed with/not jealous of the USA, he proves his USA obsession and jealousy all over again.🤣
Slade · 56-60, M
@graphite He's easier to play than checkers 😅
Catholics are Christians.
chrisCA · M
@bijouxbroussard Sadly, some fundamentalist Christians don't consider Catholics to be "true Christians".
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
@chrisCA Catholics are Catholics, not Christians. Christians follow the word of God, not man made canons and such. We do not worship Mary.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
Catholicism is a denomination of Christianity. I think the idea of a whole nation being founded on "Judeo Christian values" is a rather one-eyed view of history.
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
@SunshineGirl Do some studying on it please.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@kgabbert1 I have, that's how I came to the conclusion that it is a rather one-eyed view of history.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
For the religious people that believe they know better than Cornell law school!

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/separation_of_church_and_state

Separation of Church and State.

Separation of Church and State is a phrase that refers to the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. The phrase dates back to the early days of U.S. history, and Thomas Jefferson referred to the First Amendment as creating a “wall of separation” between church and state as the third president of the U.S. The term is also often employed in court cases. For example, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black famously stated in Everson v. Board of Education that “[t]he First Amendment has erected a wall between church and state,” and “[t]hat wall must be kept high and impregnable.”
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@Slade and you are ignoring their initial statement.
The phrase dates back to the early days of U.S. history, and Thomas Jefferson referred to the First Amendment as creating a “wall of separation” between church and state as the third president of the U.S.

And why I purposely underlined it
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@kgabbert1 I would totally agree with the addition of a few more.

Atheists really don't count though since they technically don't believe in anything.

Please note I am not an atheist nor even agnostic.
RedBaron · M
@DeWayfarer Great school!
graphite · 61-69, M
FBI is honing in on Catholics as "domestic terrorists". FBI is despicable and needs to be disbanded. It does the work of the Democrats, who worship abortion; the Catholic church is about the biggest pro-life organization there is.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-sought-develop-sources-catholic-churches-internal-documents-show
"The United States of America should have a foundation free from the influence of clergy." ~ George Washington

"Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law." ~ Thomas Jefferson

"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise.... During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution." ~ James Madison

"The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries." ~ James Madison

"The way to see by Faith is to shut the Eye of Reason." ~ Benjamin Franklin

"Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth." ~ Thomas Jefferson
Slade · 56-60, M
Catholics are Christians. Although I think they've, for quite a while, been more about business than Jesus.
akindheart · 61-69, F
can we leave the Supreme court alone...the fight was for race, they have 2 black judges. then the fight over conservatism...it just never ends. and now they are after Clarence Thomas AGAIN.
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
@akindheart I'm not going to leave it alone. There are a lot of issues.
akindheart · 61-69, F
@kgabbert1 their religion is private. focus on more important things.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
They are exceptional jurists. You have something against Catholics?
GJOFJ3 · 61-69, M
@HoraceGreenley His anti Catholic bigotry is on full display
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@GJOFJ3 And apparently not aware Catholics are Christians
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kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
BBarker I absolutely love this, you Catholics and Atheists are proving my point, I really don't have to say much else. lol, you are both of satan, kinda brothers and sisters.

I love it, now the fake Protestants are teaming up with the Catholics and Atheists,lol.

"Johnson (sometimes referred to as Bill Johnson) was the first openly gay minister to be ordained in a historic protestant denomination. He received his ordination through the United Church of Christ (UCC) on June 25, 1972 in San Carlos, California. Houston, Texas, U.S. "

Leviticus 20:13
"If a man also lie with mankind as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination."

So, let me get this straight, someone that is an abomination to God, can become a minister in the Protestant cult?
wildbill83 · 41-45, M
"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
"Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 KJV

"Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;" 1 Timothy 1:9-10 KJV

And that's New Testament, in Old Testament, anyone practicing homosexuality would simply be killed. ("If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." - Leviticus 20:13 KJV) And if people think that's harsh, pre-Christ pagans weren't too fond of queers either...

and the few that did tolerate or accept it are now dead/destroyed civilizations...
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
MasterLee · 56-60, M
The country is deist at most.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
The adjective 'catholic' with a small 'c' describes the Christian religion generally (it simply means something like all-embracing or all-including), but if you mean the Roman Catholic Church then that is of course as Christian as Anglican, Methodism, Baptism, Lutherism or any other major sect of that religion.

Many of the original colonialists from Britain, Ireland and other European countries were escapees from religious persecution in bitterly sectarian times; but I am not sure if they were predominantly Roman Catholic or Protestant (the umbrella term for all other Christian sects together). Either way your country was founded on Judeao-Christianity, yes, but strove to respect all sects of both religions, including RC, Anglican and Lutherism.

If the majority of Christians in the Supreme Court are RC, then is that just coincidence, or is there some social aspect, not necessarily religious at all, that tends to encourage more Catholics than others to seek the positions?

Whatever the reason there, the statement in your question shows the Supreme Court is of majority-Christian membership. How the majority sect among them affects its decisions, if they allow that to happen at all, is another matter; but it is still mainly-Christian by numbers.
Penny · 46-50, F
maybe cause the country is really run by the italian mafia? idk just a guess lol
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
@Penny lol
Slade · 56-60, M
@Penny not a good one
Penny · 46-50, F
@Slade oh of course. How outlandish an idea@ lol
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
"Alberto Rivera, ex-Jesuit, revealed information about them, was poisoned." - Jack Chick, The Prophet Alberto
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
@graphite @graphite I did write that. Do you see the word, "died" anywhere in thqat post? lol
graphite · 61-69, M
Apparently, Christianity Today exposed Rivera as a fraud in 1981 but the article is behind a firewall. (I remember hearing about Rivera in the 1970s).
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1981/03/20/anti-catholic-comics-by-californian-decried-by-evangelical-magazine/7e8a7116-fbe6-4dcc-a365-eb32c052d842/

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/1981/march-13/jack-chicks-anti-catholic-alberto-comic-book-is-exposed-as.html
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
@graphite Of course the Jesuits will discredit him.
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
"George Bush dedicated a cultural center in D.C. to Pope John Paul 11. He said, The best way to honor Pope John Paul 11, is to take his teachings seriously, to listen to his words and teachings and put his words into action here in America." Reuters News Service, March 22, 2001.

Now I ask you again since we all agree that there is a separation between church and state.

Why does Catholicism have the Majority of seats on the Supreme Court?
DCarey · 46-50, M
@kgabbert1 Hipocrit?🤣 What grade did you drop out?
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
@DCarey You deserve to burn in Hell for eternity.
DCarey · 46-50, M
@kgabbert1 😂🤡 It's been fun. Bye, Felicia.
wildbill83 · 41-45, M
just another example of the church of england and the pope sticking their noses in our business, so they can lecture us about sticking our noses in other people's business...

opposition to state religions and the churches involvement in politics with the backing of royal inbreds is the primary reason we came here to begin with...
@wildbill83 The c of e used to be a national pride, now it is mostly woke garbage.
SW-User
I realize the term "Judeo-Christian" is well intentioned, but most of the time it is not actually accurate to lump together Judaism and Christianity. For sure in the case of the United States (I assume that is the nation you are talking about) us Jews really don't get any of the credit or blame for founding it.
Catholicism is a form of Christianity
Slade · 56-60, M
So certain religions should be excluded on the court? Doesn't sound very "inclusive" or "equitable"

Try again - try harder
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
@Slade your comment makes no sense whatsoever genius, its your OPINION, that Catholics and Jews are the best, not fact.
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
@Slade So, wise one, what religion are you? Or are you a nonbeliever? This should be interesting.
Slade · 56-60, M
@kgabbert1 Why are you even asking about religion. I thought there was a "wall of separation between church and state". That would make any religion irrelevant their.

It looks like leftism and quota monkeying are your religion
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
"During this period in the seminary, following his 14th birthday in 1941, Ratzinger was enrolled in the Hitler Youth, as membership was legally required as of March 1939."

Early Life of Pope Benedict XVI - Wikipedia
graphite · 61-69, M
Yes, legally required. So what's your point? Had to serve in the Nazi Army too, but he deserted.
GJOFJ3 · 61-69, M
Being Catholic doesn’t mean lockstep ideology
Sonia Sotomayor and Amy Coney Barrett are both Catholic and mostly on the opposite sides of the issues presented to the court
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
@GJOFJ3 Yeah, and Janet Reno was Jesuit trained, a demonic murderer. The Dark Ages coming back to life.
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
True, a Separation was intended. So, I'll ask again. Why do Catholics make up the majority of the seats on the Supreme Court? We need Islam in there, Buddhists, Atheist, etc., everyone represented.
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
You Catholics are good at insulting Christians, not so good at intellectual conversation. lol
Of course. Christianity didn't exist until 1517 when Protestantism was created🙄 You do realize Christianity is the answer to one question right? Do you believe in Jesus. That's it.
But going by your interaction on this thread you are a complete shit stirrer that should be burned at the stake just for being a fuck up.
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
@canusernamebemyusername lol. You must be a Catholic. Just answer the question satan.
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
Are we going back to the dark ages where Catholics murdered Christians?
Slade · 56-60, M
Mindless shit-stirrer alert. Enable ignore feature folks
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
@Slade Anyone with a mind should be able to see what you are doing. You hate it because you hate the truth. You resort to childish antics versus refuting anything I've quoted.
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
Catholics can't even follow their own "Laws," your Pope, is not supposed to be a Jesuit, look at your current one. I bet I know more about Catholicism than a lot of Catholics,lol.
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
@Slade What is your religion? Or are you a non-believer?
Slade · 56-60, M
@kgabbert1 Why are you so obsessed with others religion? Is that part of the Scientology hazing
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
@Slade Oh, it's not an obsession. Are you afraid to answer the question? Or are you afraid it will expose why you reason as you do?
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
canusernamebemyusername · M
Of course. Christianity didn't exist until 1517 when Protestantism was created🙄 You do realize Christianity is the answer to one question right? Do you believe in Jesus. That's it.
But going by your interaction on this thread you are a complete shit stirrer that should be burned at the stake just for being a fuck up.
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
Janet Reno at Boston College, "I hope you take the Jesuit commitment to service with you all the days of your life. Never give up trying to secure peace, liberty and justice for all."

So, the Top Law Dog during the murders of men, women, and children in Waco did not let religion influence her decisions?

I am sure she is burning in Hell right now, as she should be.
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
" Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change (of the sabbath to Sunday) was her act......, And the act is a MARK of her ecclesiastical power." Letter by H.J. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons

Why can liquor and other certain things not be sold on Sunday? Sunday is not the day of sabbath that I recognize.
SW-User
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.

Leonard Leo and certain members of congress are responsible for the unfortunate makeup of the USSC.
SW-User
@Slade thank you justice slade, you may get over yourself now…or whenever you finish jacking off in front of a mirror.
Slade · 56-60, M
@SW-User Sublime retort!

I OWN YOU!
SW-User
@Slade in your head..and nothing else
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
graphite · 61-69, M
FBI is honing in on Catholics as "domestic terrorists". FBI is despicable and needs to be disbanded. It does the work of the Democrats, who worship abortion; the Catholic church is about the biggest pro-life organization there is.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-sought-develop-sources-catholic-churches-internal-documents-show
Zeusdelight · 61-69, M
I thought the Separation of State and Religion was one of your country's cornerstones. How can you ask this type of question?
Zeusdelight · 61-69, M
@kgabbert1 Intelligent and Ethical jurists will apply the law to the facts as provided by the parties to the action.

If you do not think that is happening, the problem is much deeper than the faith of each individual Judge.

Their religious beliefs should not be a matter affecting their considerations, so any quota system would have no effect.
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
@Zeusdelight I disagree, how can anyone believe that their personal opinions will not have an affect? Maybe their religion should not be made available to the public. Still, to be fair, we need more than Catholics and Jews to fill those seats.
Zeusdelight · 61-69, M
@kgabbert1 Some people are disciplined. In fact, a lot of people have to be disciplined in that way as a requirement to do their work.
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
Check this reply out. Where in the Bible does it condone burning Christians at the stake. Is History going to repeat the Dark Ages where Catholics, not Christians, murderd millions of Christians for reading the Bible. This must be a true Catholic.
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
They are exceptional jurists. You have something against Catholics?

It goes a lot deeper than you are trying to portray. The Jesuits don't fool me,lol. Have you read the Extreme Oath?
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
"The Jesuits needed certain people in the Whitehouse to pass the Federal Reserve Act.", (Woodrow Wilson, Col. Edward Mandel House) (Thomas W. House), "Col. House was personal advisor to Woodrow Wilson and later to FDR."
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
"The Pope is the ruler of the world. All the Emperors, all the Kings, all the Princes, all the Presidents of the world are as these alter boys of mine." - " Priest Phelan, Western Watchman, June 27, 1912"
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
LOL Don't tell the "Founding Fathers" that they were Jewish. Particularly the Theists among them. But one Catholic signed the Declaration of Independence, though no Jews signed.
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
Janet Reno loved the Jesuits. She was the,"Top Law Dog," in the U.S. when they murdered all those men, women, and CHILDREN, in Waco. I am sure she is burning in Hell right now, and deservedly so.
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
"The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, but he is Jesus Christ, hidden under a veil of flesh." - The Catholic Journal, July 1895

Really People?
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
Now, if you'll excuse me for a bit while you come up with more childish insults, I have some running around to do. lol
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
"House was a key Jesuit agent seeking to destroy the Constitution and to establish papal supremacy in America."
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
All I see from you Catholics and Atheists is nothing but bashing. I must be doing something right to bring satan out in you.
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
Look at some of you Catholics comments,lol. Then look up the definition of persecution. You are like wolves in sheeps clothing.
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
" Corporations controlled by the CFR and Jesuits n- Ford, Boeing, Pepsi, Heinz, Lockheed-Martin, Time Warner, and Chevron."
SW-User
Oh great, another crazy person ranting at himself in an empty chamber. Have fun, lunatic. 🙄
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
@SW-User Thank You. Another Catholic or Atheist comment. Am I offending you with truth or are you just so intellectually and morally bankrupt that you can do nothing but bash others?
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
"Avro Manhattan - authority on the Roman Catholic Church, blames Vietnam on the Jesuits and the Papacy."
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
I have noticed that some will not disclose their beliefs, hmmm, something to hide maybe.
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
"Mein Kampf written by the Jesuit (controlled) Father (Bernhardt) Stempfle and signed by Hitler"
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
"Sunday is our Mark of Authority...." (The Catholic Record, London, Ontario, Sept.1, 1923.) HMM
kgabbert1 · 56-60, M
"Sunday is our MARK of authority.....,"
The Catholic Record, London, Ontario, Sept.1, 1923

 
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